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Old 04-21-2009, 11:14 AM
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They were due to meet as mccallum was duran's number one contender, for the wba lightmiddleweight title, but duran instead vacated and went after a bigger money hearns fight. Also I heard the reason mccallum left manny steward was because he was ment to be setting up duran vs mike, but instaed went behind mccallum's back and set up the hearns fight. I think a well prepared duran would of beat mccallum, but if duran would of turned up the same way he did against hearns, i think mccallum would of stopped him late. I think alot of fans get carried away with the body snather he was good, but not as good as the fab four. In his prime mccallum went against James toney and got beat on points, also james got robbed in there first fight with that draw, he also got a close win over graham, which could of went either way and won and loss against kalambay, and had a devasting knockout win over jackson, all done while mike was at his best, past his best he still managed win a wbc lightheavyweight title beating ugged jeff harding

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Old 04-21-2009, 11:43 AM
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They were due to meet as mccallum was duran's number one contender, for the wba lightmiddleweight title, but duran instead vacated and went after a bigger money hearns fight. Also I heard the reason mccallum left manny steward was because he was ment to be setting up duran vs mike, but instaed went behind mccallum's back and set up the hearns fight. I think a well prepared duran would of beat mccallum, but if duan would of turned up the same way he did against hearns, i think mccallum would of stopped him late. I think alot of fans get carried away with the body snather he was good, but not as good as the fab four. In his prime mccallum went against James toney and got beat on points, also james got robbed in there first fight with that draw, he also got a close win over graham, which could of went either way and won and loss against kalambay, and had a devasting knockout win over jackson, all done while mike was at his best, past his best he still managed win a wbc lightheavyweight title beating ugged jeff harding
Oh no! Check the last RD thread man.. Did I give you the idea?

Just for the record... Both extremely tough hombre's... McCallum SD with immediate rematch!

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Old 04-21-2009, 12:04 PM
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Oh no! Check the last RD thread man.. Did I give you the idea?

Just for the record... Both extremely tough hombre's... McCallum SD with immediate rematch!
Yeah you did man!
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:26 PM
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Yeah you did man!
I've been inspired by a few people myself!
I've also noted that you're a historian/purist who relies on facts... Touch'e
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:27 PM
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They were due to meet as mccallum was duran's number one contender, for the wba lightmiddleweight title, but duran instead vacated and went after a bigger money hearns fight. Also I heard the reason mccallum left manny steward was because he was ment to be setting up duran vs mike, but instaed went behind mccallum's back and set up the hearns fight. I think a well prepared duran would of beat mccallum, but if duan would of turned up the same way he did against hearns, i think mccallum would of stopped him late. I think alot of fans get carried away with the body snather he was good, but not as good as the fab four. In his prime mccallum went against James toney and got beat on points, also james got robbed in there first fight with that draw, he also got a close win over graham, which could of went either way and won and loss against kalambay, and had a devasting knockout win over jackson, all done while mike was at his best, past his best he still managed win a wbc lightheavyweight title beating ugged jeff harding
I disagree with that. McCallum was at his peak at 154, where he was never beaten. He struggled more when he moved up. My recollection is it was McCallum, not Toney, who deserved to win the first fight, and in any case McCallum was well into his 30s by that point, not what I'd call prime. Even the rematches were not blowouts for Toney.

Remember Duran himself was more beatable at 154. I think McCallum would be too strong for him and wins a decision.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:34 PM
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I disagree with that. McCallum was at his peak at 154, where he was never beaten. He struggled more when he moved up. My recollection is it was McCallum, not Toney, who deserved to win the first fight, and in any case McCallum was well into his 30s by that point, not what I'd call prime. Even the rematches were not blowouts for Toney.

Remember Duran himself was more beatable at 154. I think McCallum would be too strong for him and wins a decision.
He was still in his prime when he faced toney fist time round, just past it 2nd time, finished 3rd time. Duran on a good day looked unbeatable at 154 go and watch the cuevas and moore fight for proof, but on a bad day he looked like he didnt want to be there. If both were to meet on there best day's i have no dout duran would of beat mccallum. I also think if bobmer gaham would of got his rematch he would of beat mccallum.

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Old 04-21-2009, 12:40 PM
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I think McCallum would have been too strong for Duran at that point, he wouldn't have demolished Duran the way Hearns did but I think McCallum would have beaten him decisively.
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:56 PM
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I think McCallum would have been too strong for Duran at that point, he wouldn't have demolished Duran the way Hearns did but I think McCallum would have beaten him decisively.
A fight that i often think about was former european champion kirklindlang and mccallum it could of happend after lang beat duran, mccallum beat 2 other brits graham and watson, but never faced benn, eubank and lang
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A fight that i often think about was former european champion kirklindlang and mccallum it could of happend after lang beat duran, mccallum beat 2 other brits graham and watson, but never faced benn, eubank and lang
Those would have been very good fights, Laing, when he was training right and focused would have given anyone trouble with his awkward style, reflexes, speed and decent power.

McCallum vs Benn would have been very good, McCallum had a very good chin and he might have been a little bit too good technically for Benn down the stretch.

I think McCallum would have outboxed Eubank too but it could have ended up in a close decision in an uneventful fight because of their styles, would have been very interesting though.
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Old 04-21-2009, 01:06 PM
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He was still in his prime when he faced toney fist time round, just past it 2nd time, finished 3rd time. Duran on a good day looked unbeatable at 154 go and watch the cuevas and moore fight for proof, but on a bad day he looked like he didnt want to be there. If both were to meet on there best day's i have no dout duran would of beat mccallum. I also think if bobmer gaham would of got his rematch he would of beat mccallum.
McCallum was 35 when he fought Toney the first time. How close to prime could he really have been? Even so, I thought he beat Toney in that one. I'll have to watch it again. He did squeak past Graham but that's no disgrace. Not many beat Graham easily.

Duran was still a fine fighter at 154 so it's not like he can't beat McCallum. I just don't think he would. Pound for pound is a different story, but head to head I think McCallum is too strong for him.
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