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Old 04-17-2009, 03:35 AM #1
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Default Jersey Joe Walcott vs. George Foreman

I'm not sure this match up has been discussed too frequently, I find it very interesting.



Joe Walcott
Height: 6' 0"
Weight: 194 lb

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George Foreman
Height: 6' 3 1/2"
Weight: 217 lbs


"Walcott did not directly attack, rather he subtly lured his opponent to him. Employing “the Walcott Shuffle,” he created innovative punching angles that took adversaries by surprise. Walcott not only feinted with his hands, but with his shoulders and upper body. Opponents were often thrown off balance as Walcott deftly avoided their attacks until the moment he unloaded a variety of devastating, unexpected punches on them."

"Foreman ran off a string of 37 consecutive victories over some of the heavyweight division's most well-unknown names, dissembling 34 of them into smaller, neater pieces with his ponderous punches, delivered in the manner of a man hewing down trees. "


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o08Nt6HPidg

Foreman earns a tough decision over the small and slick Gregorio Peralta.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gB09VEEZvM

Despite the judges favoring Louis aggression, Walcott puts on a clinic against the bigger stronger Champion.

So who you got? The powerful Foreman would have to be the favorite but I really like Walcott's chances of frustrating the big man and earning a decision.

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Walcott was a highly skilled fighter, but if Marciano could finish him, Foreman could as well, probably in half the time. I'd go with Foreman by a mid-round stoppage, just too much of a size and power advantage.
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Old 04-17-2009, 04:32 AM #3
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Walcott was a highly skilled fighter, but if Marciano could finish him, Foreman could as well, probably in half the time. I'd go with Foreman by a mid-round stoppage, just too much of a size and power advantage.
Agreed. I see Foreman being too physically strong for Walcott who was extremely skilled but took chances and would be out weighed by a considerable amount and would be in against the hardest puncher in his career. This knockout could end up being as or even more brutal than the Marciano one.

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This knockout could end up being as or even more brutal than the Marciano one.
That would be pretty difficult to do, that was one of those Julian Jackson-esque knockouts where you think the man may be dead he's out for so long.
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A pretty interesting match up here. In Jersey Joe Walcott you have a real cutie, with full of tricks up his sleeve, great defence, great movement and footwork and brillant craftminship. Walcott also had power in his left hook and right cross.

In George Foreman, you have one of the strongest ever Heavyweights, with scary power to demolish heavyweights including Joe Frazierx2, Ken Norton, Ron Lyle, Gerry Cooney, and Michael Moorer. Foreman had awesome natrual power, and didn't really throw his power shots the texbook way or even on balance. But his his wild swings especailly the roundhouse right ko'd most. Fighters saw it coming, but it didn't matter one bit.

Foreman would have a big weight advantage on the 6''0 foot 196lbs Walcott. Foreman being 6′ 3″ and weighed 220/230lbs in his prime.

But they don't come much more clever and slippey than Jersey Joe Walcott, and for the first couple of rounds he could have all the tools to cause the slow plodding Foreman trouble with his footwork, movement and slippery ability.

Foreman always struggled with mover's and slippey fighters etc Muhhamed Ali, Jimmy Young.

But Walcott's chin wasn't great (KO'd 6 times), and he may cause Foreman alot of problems but after the first 2 to 3 rounds, Foreman would most likey use his strength and catch Walcott with a wild swinging right cross and this would probaly spell the end for Jersey Joe.

But there is a chance like I said Walcott could use his boxing abilty, movement and footwork to outbox Foreman and get past the first 6 rounds with him and Foreman could tire and Walcott could come out with the win.

But I will stick with my first prediction.

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To behonest i wouldnt be surprised if jersey joe boxed the ears off big george, foreman has never like movers, go and watch the young fight for proof, he struggled when tommy morrison began to box and move. If walcot come into this fight with his dancing shoes on as he did in the first louis fights he makes a fool of big george
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That would be pretty difficult to do, that was one of those Julian Jackson-esque knockouts where you think the man may be dead he's out for so long.
Definitely, although Foreman was a much harder puncher than Marciano and Joe would be out matched in size by a lot. He hasn't fought that kind of devastating puncher before. George even made Frazier seem like he had a glass chin.
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Walcott was a highly skilled fighter, but if Marciano could finish him, Foreman could as well, probably in half the time. I'd go with Foreman by a mid-round stoppage, just too much of a size and power advantage.

I don't know about that. It took Marciano 13 Rounds of relentless pressure to finally wear down Walcott enough to catch him. Foreman was at his best destroying overmatched swarmers like Kirkman, Chuvalo, Frazier, and Norton in the early rounds. He struggled against elusive fighters that made him work; Peralta, Ali, Young, and even Lye before he got suckered into a brawl. In contrast, Marciano's high workrate swarming was ideal for breaking down elusive fighters like Walcott, LaStarza, Matthews, Charles, and Moore. By this logic, Foreman should have got to Ali cause Frazier did.

The bigger stalking Joe Louis is a better measuring stick and it still took him two fights to finally catch Walcott late with a slick counter over the jab. Even at that stage in his career, Louis was a smarter, quicker, and more accurate puncher than George, he also never had fatigue problems and could afford to stalk his opponent into deep water. Foreman was much more physically powerful but that isn't going to help when your swinging at air and getting tagged with crisp counters all night.

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Walcott was extremely great, one of the best of all time.

But George Foreman would win this fight by KO in the opening seconds of round 1.
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