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Old 04-02-2009, 03:26 PM
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I never said they are becoming communists. That would be seriously pushing it. I cited Vladamir Putin's comments to the Obama Administration not to move too far left to socialist ideals. If a former Socialist State is telling another State not to move to the left, then I think they mean it. Based on the decisions and the regulation of the economy, it's really difficult to make a case that defends capitalist ideals within the recent economic decisions.
Why would Putin say that then.. Just about every country in the world is interferring with ''the free market'' .. Governments helping their banks and so on.. Even using John Keynes ideas to try and regulate and boom their economy.. It isn't really a matter of becoming increasingly to the left or right.. It's a matter of getting out of a crisis.. and for that to happen, most economists wouldn't advice a pure capitalistic approach
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:26 PM
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I think those bitter conservatives that lost the election are blowing this wayy out of proportion.
I think Don Corleon needs a life too.
I forgive you, because you've been lied to. We've all been lied to. There might be a point in the future when you'll wonder whether we still live in America. Watch when they tell you what doctor to go to, and how much money you can make or can't make.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:30 PM
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yes, yes, yes.. and Obama is a racist secret commi muslim who wants to take our guns away... we get it. y'all only been kicking and screaming it like loonies for the past couple years.
the same idiots who think he is a muslim think he is leading America into "socialism".. why is that?

I can't imagine what you guys would say if FDR where in power today and had the same programs going on now as he did in the Great Depression.. you would probably call the man a communist and hang him.

Why is it that FDR did something much similar, yet we are still a free capitalist society? hmm?? In times of crisis you do what needs to get done.
FDR prolonged the depression

Oh yeah, P.S. Do you honestlye believe that Obama is a true Christian? An atheist mother and a muslim father, how does he become Christian all of a sudden? Was he even baptised?
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:53 PM
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FDR prolonged the depression

Oh yeah, P.S. Do you honestlye believe that Obama is a true Christian? An atheist mother and a muslim father, how does he become Christian all of a sudden? Was he even baptised?
the only reason he prolonged it is because he pulled back some of the programs he did when conservatives asked him too.. if he would have kept them in place, it wouldn't have been prolonged.

My mother is Christian and my father is Catholic. I am an atheist.
How do my parents views have anything to do with mine again?
You also forget that the man was raised by his grandmother.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:55 PM
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You should be commended for being enlightened.
Greatest quote of all time. Forms of government socialism are in plenty of countries throughout the world that are doing fine.
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Old 04-02-2009, 03:59 PM
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Greatest quote of all time. Forms of government socialism are in plenty of countries throughout the world that are doing fine.
we have socialist aspects in our government.. bafoons like Don C just fail to see them or ignore them. there is nothing wrong with a healthy balance of both like we have.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:05 PM
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yes, yes, yes.. and Obama is a racist secret commi muslim who wants to take our guns away... we get it. y'all only been kicking and screaming it like loonies for the past couple years.
the same idiots who think he is a muslim think he is leading America into "socialism".. why is that?

I can't imagine what you guys would say if FDR where in power today and had the same programs going on now as he did in the Great Depression.. you would probably call the man a communist and hang him.

Why is it that FDR did something much similar, yet we are still a free capitalist society? hmm?? In times of crisis you do what needs to get done.
Funny how I never ever mentioned anything to do with race, communism or muslim. It's quite obvious you try and shift the topic to things that haven't been mentioned because you know that you can't argue the main topic so you try and make up things to make up for what's been said. When you honestly quit being so partisan and actually learn to respond without being so ignorant and unaware that people will have different opinions other than yours then I'll take you serious.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:14 PM
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we have socialist aspects in our government.. bafoons like Don C just fail to see them or ignore them. there is nothing wrong with a healthy balance of both like we have.
Oh so now there is some socialist aspects? However, about a week ago, you were arguing how there is barely any socialist aspects at all in the government. I guess now you changed your mind. You're honestly a joke. I never even said there is anything wrong with a socialist state if it works for any nation. All I'm questioning is whether the U.S. has shifted away from capitalism. Unfortunately for yourself it's difficult when you're reading and comprehending.
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Old 04-02-2009, 06:17 PM
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Oh so now there is some socialist aspects? However, about a week ago, you were arguing how there is barely any socialist aspects at all in the government. I guess now you changed your mind. You're honestly a joke. I never even said there is anything wrong with a socialist state if it works for any nation. All I'm questioning is whether the U.S. has shifted away from capitalism. Unfortunately for yourself it's difficult when you're reading and comprehending.
I never argued there was barely any.. infact, our police force is socialized, some of our utilities, our fire departments, schools, social security etc. Anyway, the only joke here is you. You are pathetic, you think you "own" people in arguments when you just make yourself look like the know it all fool. I forget who you where arguing with the other day, but I read the entire conversation and you where claiming victory when you had hardly won the argument at all. course, you just read and hear what you like and the rest just goes right over your head.
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