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Old 03-01-2009, 05:17 PM
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Was there any moment in p4p history that 1&2 was being disputed this closely? Both guys practically in the same weightclass too.Both guys just had two epic battles and we still dont know for sure who is better.
I just cant see how you proclaim one being great while dissing the other one.
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:20 PM
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was there any moment in p4p history that 1&2 was being disputed this closely? Both guys practically in the same weightclass too.both guys just had two epic battles and we still dont know for sure who is better.
I just cant see how you proclaim one being great while dissing the other one.
sad part is manny is looked at as a god...while jmm doesn't get his props in the mainstream
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:22 PM
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roy and pernell had good discussions

Nard and Floyd was another close one


this just seems closer because the two actually fought
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Yeah, Whitaker and Chavez were one and two or two and three, I forget.
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:27 PM
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sad part is manny is looked at as a god...while jmm doesn't get his props in the mainstream
I think it has to do with Manny's style thus making him a bit more popular than jmm.
What do you mean?
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:29 PM
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[QUOTE=Makavelli;4840271]roy and pernell had good discussions

Nard and Floyd was another close one


this just seems closer because the two actually fought[/QUOTE]

Thats what i meant.Do you think if Hopkins and Mayweather fought(assuming theyre both in the same weight class) it would still be as hotly contested as this?
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:31 PM
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i didn't know one guy beating another guy twice makes two fighters close
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:32 PM
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sad part is manny is looked at as a god...while jmm doesn't get his props in the mainstream
Agreed. IMO, that may have to do with factors such as:

-Pac moved up in weights to fight and embarrass DLH when he was an underdog.

-Pac's fighting style is exciting since he's mainly the agressor, not the counter-punching, defensive one.

-Pac continually tries to speak English in the media and not with a translator, is humble, and doesn't talk smack about other fighters.

-Pac is perceived to have given lots of his money to the poor.

-JMM (or Nacho) not accepting the quick rematch after the first fight and instead chose to fight Chris John and lost.

-JMM KD'd 4 times, not accepting the loss, and whined and *****ed for another rematch.

If Pac gets embarassed by Ricky, JMM will move up to be #1 p4p deservedly.
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Was there any moment in p4p history that 1&2 was being disputed this closely? Both guys practically in the same weightclass too.Both guys just had two epic battles and we still dont know for sure who is better.
I just cant see how you proclaim one being great while dissing the other one.
roy jones and floyd mayweather was.
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sad part is manny is looked at as a god...while jmm doesn't get his props in the mainstream
When you make a statement like this you have to understand hardcore boxing fans are not the mainstream. If JMM had a well publicized rags to riches story as Pac does, if he was the biggest celebrity in his country, if he made an attempt to speak english, if he had a similar more reckless style like Pac then maybe he would be as popular. The fact that JMM is one of the most talented boxers of our generation and perhaps all time unfortunately is not going to give him mainstream popularity.
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