Promoters are the worst thing to ever happen to boxing

[Danny Gunz]

Say all you want about there being to many weight divisions, to many sanctioning bodies, whatever.. it all comes down to the promoters being the worst thing to happen to this sport.

I was just reading an article about kelly pavlik on espn, dan rafael was sayin how bob arum said arthur abraham needs to gain more recognition to get a fight with pavlik. I just wanna know why now to have a shot at the champ being the best opponent out there for him is not enough. It sickens me that Pavlik and Abraham will likely go another year without fighting, and the worst part is pavlik will fight probably 2 more times this year and to see those fights we will probably have to pay 50 dollars to see him wash up a bum.

Dont give me the "ooohhh boxing is a business" bull**** cause baseball is a business and every year the yankees play the red sox. And its not like these guys are going broke the whole problem is "they want 8 million instead of 7" or some **** like that.

Pavlik is my favorite fighter but in my mind he is not the champ until he beats abraham or abraham loses. I would rather pay 50 dollars to see bob arum fight dlh then to see pavlik fight another guy like rubio.

This is the end of my rant

[Rocky=Ward]

and pavlik wanted to face AA, gosh dang, promoters suck!

[cassiusthegreat]

[Rocky=Ward]

Originally Posted by cassiusthegreat

my eyes!!!!! Ahhhh!!!!

[Mr. Ryan]

Hahahahahahahaha!

No disrespect intended, but you have to reevaluate that statement. Crooked, corrupt boxing promoters are the worst thing to happen to boxing, but promoters are essential.

Without a promoter, how would the fights be materialized? Would they just fight in a gym and charge at the door?

Boxers aren't promoters, promoters are promoters, just as managers are managers and trainers are trainers. You need a promoter to make money in this business, someone has to advertise, work out deals with TV and venues, find the opponents, sell tickets.

There is a lot more to boxing than just the fighting.

I agree, corrupt promoters are a sore spot in boxing, power corrupts all. They know the fighters need the fights, they need the television coverage so if they feel they hold all the cards, they're going to use it to their advantage.

Sadly, boxing is a culture of corruption.

[OnePunch]

well, if there were no promoters, who would risk the money to do these shows, and make the investment in developing fighters?

[MANGLER]

They are necessary evils, at least for younger fighters. Once a fighter knows the game and can promote himself, he's in a better position.

[Mr. Ryan]

Originally Posted by mangler

They are necessary evils, at least for younger fighters. Once a fighter knows the game and can promote himself, he's in a better position.

So instead of training, he is putting up his own money to the venue, negotiating television deals, dealing on a personal basis with the matchmaker to get the opponents squared away, making sure that everyone is doing their jobs...

Also he is training for a boxing match and sparring.

That doesn't make much sense to me, personally.

[Boxer1590]

How would we watch and go to fights without promoters? Promoters put everything together.

[Newyorkknicks07]

I always looked upon promoting as more of a double-edged sword kind of thing. I mean, on the one hand, the sport has been financially dependent on promoters. I mean, De La Hoya-Mayweather would not have sold nearly as great as it did, if not for the type of promotion it recieved.

But it's a double edged sword like i said. Boxing loses a lot of business when somebody watches a real hyped up fight for the first time and it turns out to be a **** bout. People say "hm, i guess everybody else is right. I guess boxing is an old-man thing." And of course there's the Don King and Bob Arum type characters who basically rob fighters of victories and earnings.

In the end though, boxing needs the promoters, they're part of the sport.