Do you consider excessive holding cheating? - Page 2

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Originally Posted by reedickyaluss

its illegal, and thats why they deduct a point.

They never deduct points and rarely are they ever told something...

Tlahuizcalpante

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Originally Posted by HTownTexan

They never deduct points and rarely are they ever told something...

Right I was suprised in the Berto Collazo fight that Berto was warned.

Cadillac Man

It is illegal and should be penalized...Problem is some refs are more leniant than others...How could Berto be penalized but SSM was not? SSM held more than Berto yet it was OK WHY? Clinching when hurt is fine but throwing 1 or 2 punches then constantly holding is illegal and really hurts the ebb and flow of a fight!

Haglerwins

Blame the refs, not the fighters. If the other guy isn't smart enough to work around a clincher, that's on him.

-Swizzy-

I think holding should be taken out of boxing completely. the ref should give the warning for holding before the fight starts and deduct a point for EVERY single hold. Holding is the worst.

Tlahuizcalpante

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Originally Posted by kswizzy99

I think holding should be taken out of boxing completely. the ref should give the warning for holding before the fight starts and deduct a point for EVERY single hold. Holding is the worst.

I think in K1 the ref yellow card fighters for inactivity and a % of their purse is deducted each time. Now I bet that would eliminate holding in boxing .

-Swizzy-

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Originally Posted by Tlahuizcalpante

Right I was suprised in the Berto Collazo fight that Berto was warned.

yeah, that ref should do every major fight. he was the best ref I've seen to date.

-Swizzy-

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Originally Posted by Tlahuizcalpante

I think in K1 the ref yellow card fighters for inactivity and a % of their purse is deducted each time. Now I bet that would eliminate holding in boxing .

yeah, I think the ref gives the yellow if a fighter isn't engaging enough and is backing off too much. that is awsome. but in boxing the refs are too scared of deciding the fight for the fighters. I think that even if a fighter holds 40 times during a fight, he should be deducted 40points.

old and less skilled fighters are using holding to gain an advantage over younger and more skilled boxers. That seems very unfair.

woweezowee

hey kswiszy who's that girl in your sig?

MANGLER

It's against the rules and can be penalized, so yea it is cheatin technically.

Cadillac Man Undisputed Champion Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,217 Rep Power: 8 Points: 12,605.20 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 12,605.20 Donate	It is illegal and should be penalized...Problem is some refs are more leniant than others...How could Berto be penalized but SSM was not? SSM held more than Berto yet it was OK WHY? Clinching when hurt is fine but throwing 1 or 2 punches then constantly holding is illegal and really hurts the ebb and flow of a fight!

Haglerwins Undisputed Champion Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 2,639 Rep Power: 13 Points: 186,391.62 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 186,391.62 Donate	Blame the refs, not the fighters. If the other guy isn't smart enough to work around a clincher, that's on him.

-Swizzy- The Bad Guy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,185 Rep Power: 28 Points: 1,000,277,094.15 Bank: 602,370,751,369.60 Total Points: 603,371,028,463.75 Donate	I think holding should be taken out of boxing completely. the ref should give the warning for holding before the fight starts and deduct a point for EVERY single hold. Holding is the worst.

woweezowee Up and Comer Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 33 Posts: 91 Rep Power: 8 Points: 5,012,105.28 Bank: 14,182,431.31 Total Points: 19,194,536.59 Donate	hey kswiszy who's that girl in your sig?

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