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Old 01-22-2009, 03:48 AM
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Calzaghe never relied on steroids in order to win his biggest fights
thats a classic "hater" post!........hi hater!
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Old 01-22-2009, 03:48 AM
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Define "big" for me.
career defining wins, division defining wins, big name fights.

lacy, kessler, maybe eubank [lol]? i can only think he was number 1 for SMW, and defended his title 20+ times when not even half his wins can be "great" but still a noticable feat. beat hopkins for 175 lineal title, jones was just a name fight. HOF fighter.thats about it, ATG? nope.
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Old 01-22-2009, 03:53 AM
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"...maybe Eubank?" Are you serious? Maybe Eubank as a career defining fight. Anyone that beat Eubank, not matter how great, he would be one of their biggest, if not the biggest, career defining fights. Do you know who Eubank is? You're laughing at what exactly?

How is it that you laugh at that but then list Kessler and Lacy as career defining fights?
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Old 01-22-2009, 03:55 AM
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career defining wins, division defining wins, big name fights.

lacy, kessler, maybe eubank [lol]? i can only think he was number 1 for SMW, and defended his title 20+ times when not even half his wins can be "great" but still a noticable feat. beat hopkins for 175 lineal title, jones was just a name fight. HOF fighter.thats about it, ATG? nope.
Why Eubank(lol)? You realise the guy is ranked top 5 All time SMW's?

The only time anyone beat Eubank by more than 1 round was Calzaghe, his KO loss was a doctor stoppage when he was winning on all three cards with one eye.

The fact you treat him without repect shows how little you know of the subject, Eubank would be considered extremely respectable on anyone resume.
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Old 01-22-2009, 03:56 AM
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"...maybe Eubank?" Are you serious? Maybe Eubank as a career defining fight. Anyone that beat Eubank, not matter how great, he would be one of their biggest, if not the biggest, career defining fights. Do you know who Eubank is? You're laughing at what exactly?

How is it that you laugh at that but then list Kessler and Lacy as career defining fights?
thats why i said maybe . maybe comes from the fact he was past his best basically.
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:01 AM
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thats why i said maybe . maybe comes from the fact he was past his best basically.
be was fine, he was beating the crap out a cruiserweight champion not long afterwards.

I'd put money on it you never even saw Eubank box, or followed his career in any way.



Does that look like a shot fighter to you?

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Old 01-22-2009, 04:10 AM
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be was fine, he was beating the crap out a cruiserweight champion not long afterwards.

I'd put money on it you never even saw Eubank box, or followed his career in any way.
okay, if you want to count in Eubank.

thats 5/46 defining fights. 0.10% great ratio tome.

i dont see how he's considered ATG before DLH/Mosley.

hes really over rated.
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:24 AM
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Add in Reid (Ring top 10 SMW 96-00 and 03-05), Brewer (97-03), Mitchell (00-03).

Added to: Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, RJJ(Shot).

Suddenly it's 8 of 46 and really it's 8 of 24 because noone expects career defining fights before the reach world level.

Is that ATG? of course not, but don't act like the guy was fighting nobodies his entire career, I can add another couple of world champions to that list aswell by the way.
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Old 01-22-2009, 04:30 AM
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Eubank = HOF'er. It was always Calzaghe's best win, in my opinion.
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