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View Poll Results: Should Israel and Palestine run the holy land together sharing its resource and land?
Yes, they should unite and work together to run a nation 5 62.50%
No they should not work together, keep the nations apart 1 12.50%
**** UNITY.. hell no, its fine as it is.. 1 12.50%
Yes work together but share resources and land? NO 1 12.50%
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:26 AM
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:35 AM
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I think they should remain separate as there should be at least one functional democracy in the Middle East.
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I think they should remain separate as there should be at least one functional democracy in the Middle East.
are you suggesting that Muslims cant function as a democracy?
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:40 AM
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are you suggesting that Muslims cant function as a democracy?
They don't have a terribly good track record in that part of the world.
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:50 PM
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Should Israel and Palestine run the holy land together sharing its resource and land?
That is called the "One state solution", and it has been rejected by both parties from the very beginning.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:25 PM
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They don't have a terribly good track record in that part of the world.
Democracy does not even work in our own countries.
Especially here in the UK. The Prime Minister of the UK was not even voted for, and he is not even calling an election.

As for USA, all i hear there is the constant neglect of it's Education and Health system by every president.
Democracy sounds like a nice idea, but it does not work. I look at living in Britain as proof.

As for Palestine, and Israel. It's all about Israeli presence there in the first place. Britain "Granted" Israel to the Jews.

No Country has authority to grant land from other peoples countries.
You can't just take land away from Palestine and say, oh no, we must give it to the Jews.
That's just stupid.

If Britain was so adamant on giving them land, maybe they should have given them a chunk of their own land? Try and take a hint why Arabs next to Israel are so ticked off, they were literally kicked out in '47
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Democracy does not even work in our own countries.
Especially here in the UK. The Prime Minister of the UK was not even voted for, and he is not even calling an election.
He was elected as MP for Kirkaldy and Cowdenbeath in the 2005 general election with 58.1% of the votes. He is the leader of the ruling party and therefore the Prime Minister. You should really learn how the parliamentary system works before you criticise it.

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As for USA, all i hear there is the constant neglect of it's Education and Health system by every president.
Democracy sounds like a nice idea, but it does not work.
Universal healthcare is tremendously unpopular in the US. It would be undemocratic to impose it.

The education system has gaps in the US as well but it isn't perfect anywhere you go.

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No Country has authority to grant land from other peoples countries.
You can't just take land away from Palestine and say, oh no, we must give it to the Jews.
That's just stupid.

If Britain was so adamant on giving them land, maybe they should have given them a chunk of their own land?
Britain did not give anyone any land. The partition settlement was an invention of the United Nations after Britain ended their Mandate in Palestine. Israel was created after Britain relinquished control of the region. Suggesting that Britain gave land to Israel is a gross misrepresentation.
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Haha, Squealy, don't go educating me on the British Parliment system i know alot more than you do son.

Tony Blair was the Prime Minister, however due to countless of scandals, Balir had to retire to salave any sort of reputation left witht he Labour Party.

As for Gordon Brown, he took over by default. However, since the UK Population did NOT elect Brown, but Blair, it is customary to hold an election. Which is what David Cameron is doing but Gordon Brown is delaying it.

It's come to the stage even the the Labour party don't want Brown in charge, and where they have already selected a potential candidate to replace Brown when the elections to actually take place.
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As for the roles of Britain and the UN and the Land given to Israel. The irony of this is that Israel was not granted land in any legitimate way. After the fall of the British empire, all lands were given to their respective and rightful owners, (refer to the British empire in India). However, Britain still held influence in Palestine, however, it was of course the land of Palestinians.

In no way did anyone have authority to declare that land as Israel, which is why there is so much tension
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Haha, Squealy, don't go educating me on the British Parliment system i know alot more than you do son.
That sounds like a challenge. Dad.

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Tony Blair was the Prime Minister, however due to countless of scandals, Balir had to retire to salave any sort of reputation left witht he Labour Party.
Not really. There was pressure from within his own party for him to step down and this pressure was applied in no small part by Mr Brown who felt that his turn at the leadership had arrived. It really didn't have much to do with any scandals.

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The UK population did not elect Blair or any other Prime Minister. Tony Blair was elected by the population of Sedgefield with 58.9% of the votes in 2005.

IOn Britain you don't vote for the prime minister, you vote for your local Member of Parliament. Leadership is decided by the party members, ratified by the confidence of the house and made official by appointment by the Queen.

But you knew that because you know more about the parliamentary system than me.

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As for the roles of Britain and the UN and the Land given to Israel. The irony of this is that Israel was not granted land in any legitimate way. After the fall of the British empire, all lands were given to their respective and rightful owners, (refer to the British empire in India). However, Britain still held influence in Palestine, however, it was of course the land of Palestinians.

In no way did anyone have authority to declare that land as Israel, which is why there is so much tension
The land partition in Palestine and Israel was a solution for the troubles that had been a feature of that part of the world since ancient times and was ratified by the United Nations (not exclusively Britain). Guerilla actions against Israeli citizens by Arabs continued resulting in an escalation of the conflict until Israel declared independence and all hell broke loose.
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