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Old 12-22-2008, 11:11 PM
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I could've sworn margarito was like 30 yrs old...If he's been boxing for 29 years that means he started boxing when he was 1 ????
LOL, I just noticed that!
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:12 PM
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They are two of the best welterweights, Floyd was a welterweight.
they are not the best at 147 if they were they would have unified 147 by now. cotto is fighting jennings and margo is fighting old mosley. what happened to unifying with paul williams, clottey, and berto how the f.u.c.k do you anoint margarito the best whn he has not beaten the best or unfied 147.

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He fought DLH at 154 and Hatton ( A 140 champion) at 147. He needed to fight full size welterweights at 147, not guys who aren't suited for the weight or are above the weight

so baldomir wasn't a real welterwight the f.u.c.k didn't come in the ring that night weighing 163 now that he has beaten his greatest foes in hatton and hoya, and put to rest any claim against his greatness you guiys want to act like margarito or cotto are better then floyd..

they are not and paul williams and clottery exposed margartio and cotto got exposed by c-level margarito.

hence the michael jennings vacant title fiasco coming to a boxing ring near you
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:16 PM
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Mayweathers best win at 147 was probebly Judah...and Cotto beat him up. how does that make Mayweather another level above him?
damn man you know damn well that judah was coming off a 1 1/2 year layoff when he fought cotto, when has cotto ever gone after an active champion at 147, oh yueah he did and got his ass beat
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:19 PM
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Brandish. This is a failed thread. Even genuine Floyd fans (not fanatics such as yourself) are bashing u. Call it a night man!
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:21 PM
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we love your enthusiasm, but give us a break. Floyd is the greatest of the last 20 years. period. Forget about Cotto and Marg
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:23 PM
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they are not the best at 147 if they were they would have unified 147 by now. cotto is fighting jennings and margo is fighting old mosley. what happened to unifying with paul williams, clottey, and berto how the f.u.c.k do you anoint margarito the best whn he has not beaten the best or unfied 147.




so baldomir wasn't a real welterwight the f.u.c.k didn't come in the ring that night weighing 163 now that he has beaten his greatest foes in hatton and hoya, and put to rest any claim against his greatness you guiys want to act like margarito or cotto are better then floyd..

they are not and paul williams and clottery exposed margartio and cotto got exposed by c-level margarito.

hence the michael jennings vacant title fiasco coming to a boxing ring near you
When some one says they are two of the best, they don't mean them alone. They mean two out of X amount of fighters. And they are two of the best at 147, along with Williams and Clottey. But Floyd has not fought them either so where is the excuse for this?


Yes Baldomir was a welterweight, but you don't just beat him & Judah then call it a day. Also, end your career fighting a 140 champion, who always looks bad at 147. I am not acting like Floyd is better than Cotto, or Cotto is better than Floyd. I am simply stating that Cotto is a real challenge at welterweight, Floyd should have fought him.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:24 PM
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truthfully margarito and cotto are second tiers fighters compared to floyd. if you break down cotto and what he has not accomplished you can tell he was overrated and a product of floyd hate.

margarito has lost to the likes of larry dixon, rodney jones, paul williams and daniel santos.

if margarito was some atg at 147 WHICH HE IS NOT then he should be undefeated and have unified 147 or at least defended his title 15 times( like the great felix trinidad the greatest afro-rican champion ever).

but what has margo done in his 29 years in the sport

the fact that cotto could not beat a fighter bigger then him shows how overrated he truly is. cotto will never be an atg since he lacks the toughness and smarts to ever beat a bigger fighter.

why would floyd a 5 weight world champion come out of retirement and place his "0" on the line against medicore fighters like this.

what does margo have to put up in a battle with floyd of equal worth. margo has nothing but a wba belt you idiots think floyd is going to come out of retirment to fight margo for his trinket

and cotto what does he have to offer now that margo popped his cherry. a wbo trinket he got fighting michael jennings.
cotto is still a big name..

why did floyd ''retired''? because of cotto/margarito you clown

take a seat

it doesn't change the fact that floyd is a chicken and won't come back to face pacquiao
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:27 PM
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not one of you jack asses have answered my question

what does margartio bring to the dance, what does he have to offer fllyd if they fight.
He brings more physical strength to the dance, as well as Mayweather not having the power to hurt him. That makes a big diffrence since Mayweather is not a volume puncher. He's a counter puncher and would fight Margarito the exact same way Cotto did and we all know how the cotto fight ended.


In all seriousness I'm a big Margarito fan but i seriously think that Mayweather would win a close points decision but there is a very big chance Tony's volume could be enough to trump Floyd's skill.
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Old 12-22-2008, 11:40 PM
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they are not the best at 147 if they were they would have unified 147 by now. cotto is fighting jennings and margo is fighting old mosley. what happened to unifying with paul williams, clottey, and berto how the f.u.c.k do you anoint margarito the best whn he has not beaten the best or unfied 147.
Yet everyone considered Floyd Mayweather the best welterweight by unifying the titles against who again???

Floyd fought Sharma Mitchell, Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir...who we all know WAS NOT the best welterweight in the world. Why didn't Floyd unify the division if he was the best? Instead he chose to go up in weight for the money, then have a smaller fighter come up in weight for an easy win, and more big money. That's all good and all, you gotta make your money. But don't expect people to seriously consider you the best welterweight in the world if you're not fighting the toughest challengers in your division.

After Floyd retired, most people considered Cotto the best welterweight. Margarito beat him, now he's the best. Williams beat Margarito before that, but he's no longer fighting in the divison, so at this moment Margarito is the best welterweight in the world. No need to unify....Floyd didn't.

So that's what Margarito brings to the table, a fight with the best welterweight in the world.

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Styles make fights, honestly I believe that Its a toss up with either fighter...Margaritos pressure could possibly break Floyd but at the same time Every positive thing Cotto did against Margarito Floyd is better at. Floyd is a stick and move fighter and thats how Cotto was hurting Marg. Cotto was out of his element. Cotto is usually the seek and slowly destroy his competition type, he was doing something he was not used to that night and Floyd is used to it. So slight edge to Floyd.
Now Cotto vs. Floyd...I believe Cotto could go back to what he is used to doing against a Floyd. He could seek and destroy but unlike Marg. Cotto would be able to keep up with Floyd. Again Toss up, small edge to Cotto.
We all know that when Floyd Retired he wasnt even thinking about Marg. because simply put The win over Cotto put Marg. on the map. Now we all know that Cotto was major talk in boxing circles to fight Floyd and we all know what Floyd did. (retired) makes one wonder if his confidence was their for Cotto and Now after seeing what happened with Marg. maybe he feels the same about Marg. now.
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