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Old 11-26-2008, 02:42 PM
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I wanted to know what some of you though about this. My first fight is coming up in January at 178. I am in good condition. I am 6'2.5'' and have a really low body fat percentage, under 5%. I ran 3 miles the other day in roughly 19 minutes on a treadmill. I have been training hard for boxing since I started early in 2008.

my coach is conservative and waited till he was very confident that I will win my first fight, before letting me take this fight. i have been bugging him to let me fight since about june, but i see now that it was for the best, because my skills are 1000 times better than they were then.

Anyway, as for the topic of this thread.......

I have always sparred weekly, but never more than 5 rounds until last week. All of a sudden, I finished my 3 rounds going hard with my trainer, but when i left the ring, he told me not to take off my gear. I waited for him to go about 9 more rounds with various guys in the room and then he tells me "you got the rest." there were 4 more guys left, ( weighing 160, 160, 145 (obviously i worked with him a lot focusing on defense and speed), and guy my height (6'2.5''), but in worse shape weighing about 220). I went an additional 12 rounds, doing 3, 2-minute rounds with each of these 4 guys. these were consecutive rounds in which they were fresh and i was fatigued. by the time i faced the big guy, i was getting hit with slow, but powerful punches that would have NEVER hit me before.

after the sparring, i was very tired. i was about to work out, and my trainer laughed and told me that was all for the day. then, I asked my trainer, why 15 rounds if amateur fights are 3, 2-minute rounds for novice. he told me that this is how we will start the camp, and we will cut the rounds and up the intensity until fight week.

as part of that plan, i sparred 4 guys today for 2, 3 minute rounds each. i will also spar friday against a guy from our team that is open 178 who won the silver in the national golden gloves at 201 before he cut weight to go light heavy. i probably won't do more than 4 rounds with him though, and obviously he will be working with me because he is far more experienced....

My question is what do you think about this method of starting with many rounds for overall conditioning, and then cutting down to fewer, more intense rounds as the fight nears? i do not doubt my trainer. he has gotten me much, much, much better and has a track record of great results with many champions on the team, but as a future trainer, I would like to know for my own knowledge. thanks guys.

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Old 11-26-2008, 03:38 PM
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that actually sounds like a good idea i am fighting in 3 weeks time on december 13th i am 14 and had my 1st fight 1 and a half months ago i gave the guy a whoopin man. and am gonna try that how fast can you run a mile?
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Old 11-26-2008, 08:36 PM
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that actually sounds like a good idea i am fighting in 3 weeks time on december 13th i am 14 and had my 1st fight 1 and a half months ago i gave the guy a whoopin man. and am gonna try that how fast can you run a mile?
thanks for the feedback. anyone else? punchdrunk?
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:32 AM
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You do need experience but alot of sparring can lead to injuries that could stop the fight or stop you from being 100% on fight night. As long as he tapers it down and stops you from overtraining (it sounds like he is) and is safe then it should be all right. Use common sense, if your feeling run down or "off" then maybe your doing too much somewhere and need to cut back on something for a bit. Work closely with your coach and let him know how your feeling (good, tired, sore etc).
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Old 11-27-2008, 03:30 PM
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You do need experience but alot of sparring can lead to injuries that could stop the fight or stop you from being 100% on fight night. As long as he tapers it down and stops you from overtraining (it sounds like he is) and is safe then it should be all right. Use common sense, if your feeling run down or "off" then maybe your doing too much somewhere and need to cut back on something for a bit. Work closely with your coach and let him know how your feeling (good, tired, sore etc).
thanks. i actually am feeling sore as hell. since its thanksgiving and im off, i didnt have to work last night after sparring, and wont have to go back until saturday, so i can finally get some good rest. today i am just chillin/relaxing/eating and my wife has already massaged my sore neck/traps/ shoulders/ biceps. she's going to give me a full body massage before i go to bed. i need to recover to spar tomorrow. then on saturday, i have scheduled a professional massage for 90 minutes. i have never been worked on by a pro masseuse, so im hoping it will be beneficial for my recovery leading into next week. thanks for your advice!
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:21 AM
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I wanted to know what some of you though about this. My first fight is coming up in January at 178. I am in good condition. I am 6'2.5'' and have a really low body fat percentage, under 5%. I ran 3 miles the other day in roughly 19 minutes on a treadmill. I have been training hard for boxing since I started early in 2008.

my coach is conservative and waited till he was very confident that I will win my first fight, before letting me take this fight. i have been bugging him to let me fight since about june, but i see now that it was for the best, because my skills are 1000 times better than they were then.

Anyway, as for the topic of this thread.......

I have always sparred weekly, but never more than 5 rounds until last week. All of a sudden, I finished my 3 rounds going hard with my trainer, but when i left the ring, he told me not to take off my gear. I waited for him to go about 9 more rounds with various guys in the room and then he tells me "you got the rest." there were 4 more guys left, ( weighing 160, 160, 145 (obviously i worked with him a lot focusing on defense and speed), and guy my height (6'2.5''), but in worse shape weighing about 220). I went an additional 12 rounds, doing 3, 2-minute rounds with each of these 4 guys. these were consecutive rounds in which they were fresh and i was fatigued. by the time i faced the big guy, i was getting hit with slow, but powerful punches that would have NEVER hit me before.

after the sparring, i was very tired. i was about to work out, and my trainer laughed and told me that was all for the day. then, I asked my trainer, why 15 rounds if amateur fights are 3, 2-minute rounds for novice. he told me that this is how we will start the camp, and we will cut the rounds and up the intensity until fight week.

as part of that plan, i sparred 4 guys today for 2, 3 minute rounds each. i will also spar friday against a guy from our team that is open 178 who won the silver in the national golden gloves at 201 before he cut weight to go light heavy. i probably won't do more than 4 rounds with him though, and obviously he will be working with me because he is far more experienced....

My question is what do you think about this method of starting with many rounds for overall conditioning, and then cutting down to fewer, more intense rounds as the fight nears? i do not doubt my trainer. he has gotten me much, much, much better and has a track record of great results with many champions on the team, but as a future trainer, I would like to know for my own knowledge. thanks guys.

Thats wassup!! I sparred Wesly last week and was supposed to spar Peralta and Wesley and some other guy on Tuesday but I couldnt make it to the gym cuz im in Florida now for the Holidays .. btu wen i get back imma go hard cuz my baby is being born in January so imma go all out until then
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Old 11-29-2008, 02:12 PM
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Thats wassup!! I sparred Wesly last week and was supposed to spar Peralta and Wesley and some other guy on Tuesday but I couldnt make it to the gym cuz im in Florida now for the Holidays .. btu wen i get back imma go hard cuz my baby is being born in January so imma go all out until then
thats sick bro, wesley and peralta are no joke. keep up your roadwork and shadowboxing down there so that you stay in shape and maybe ray will let us have our debuts on the same card. have a good vacation buddy!
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Old 11-29-2008, 02:20 PM
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that actually sounds like a good idea i am fighting in 3 weeks time on december 13th i am 14 and had my 1st fight 1 and a half months ago i gave the guy a whoopin man. and am gonna try that how fast can you run a mile?
i dont know. the last time i did it for time, it was pretty slow- like 6:20. that 19 minute mile was the fastest timed distance piece i have done in general... i might time a mile later this month though. i'm thinking i can probably get it around 6:00, but I would be thrilled if I could break into the 5's...
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:57 AM
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Hello, How many miles do you run per weerk? And Do you run always on treadmill or do you run outdoor?
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I wanted to know what some of you though about this. My first fight is coming up in January at 178. I am in good condition. I am 6'2.5'' and have a really low body fat percentage, under 5%. I ran 3 miles the other day in roughly 19 minutes on a treadmill. I have been training hard for boxing since I started early in 2008.

my coach is conservative and waited till he was very confident that I will win my first fight, before letting me take this fight. i have been bugging him to let me fight since about june, but i see now that it was for the best, because my skills are 1000 times better than they were then.

Anyway, as for the topic of this thread.......

I have always sparred weekly, but never more than 5 rounds until last week. All of a sudden, I finished my 3 rounds going hard with my trainer, but when i left the ring, he told me not to take off my gear. I waited for him to go about 9 more rounds with various guys in the room and then he tells me "you got the rest." there were 4 more guys left, ( weighing 160, 160, 145 (obviously i worked with him a lot focusing on defense and speed), and guy my height (6'2.5''), but in worse shape weighing about 220). I went an additional 12 rounds, doing 3, 2-minute rounds with each of these 4 guys. these were consecutive rounds in which they were fresh and i was fatigued. by the time i faced the big guy, i was getting hit with slow, but powerful punches that would have NEVER hit me before.

after the sparring, i was very tired. i was about to work out, and my trainer laughed and told me that was all for the day. then, I asked my trainer, why 15 rounds if amateur fights are 3, 2-minute rounds for novice. he told me that this is how we will start the camp, and we will cut the rounds and up the intensity until fight week.

as part of that plan, i sparred 4 guys today for 2, 3 minute rounds each. i will also spar friday against a guy from our team that is open 178 who won the silver in the national golden gloves at 201 before he cut weight to go light heavy. i probably won't do more than 4 rounds with him though, and obviously he will be working with me because he is far more experienced....

My question is what do you think about this method of starting with many rounds for overall conditioning, and then cutting down to fewer, more intense rounds as the fight nears? i do not doubt my trainer. he has gotten me much, much, much better and has a track record of great results with many champions on the team, but as a future trainer, I would like to know for my own knowledge. thanks guys.

well i sparred something like 20 or 25 rounds in a week preparing for my last fight, and like 15 the week before that but then i tapered down and just did padwork in the 4 days or so leading up to tha fight and i fought pretty alright even tho i lost so meh sounds good more sparrign the better man

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