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Old 11-13-2012, 09:12 AM #161
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Such a simple question from a naive point of view....

I support socialist programs but don't support a complete socialist govt. By the way, so does America because that's been it's policies since it became a country.

I don't think most Americans even know what socialism is, or the difference between socialism, capitalism, communism or any of these other words that republican talking heads spew out 24 hours a day.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:43 AM #162
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Socialism is proven to be a failure.

Just look at the eurozone now and the countries which come before that.

Here's a vid clip of one of America's greatest minds MILTON FRIEDMAN. I bet very few of you know who this visionary is. Really sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOMI0...eature=related

In the video Milton Friedman in very SIMPLE and BASIC TERMS illustrates the evils of socialism.

It's quite frightening because the very words he uttered decades ago rings true in todays US.

Most of the populace have been indoctrinated about how "good" socialism is that they are completely unaware of its evils.

Pretty soon the US will have a rude awakening about the effects of socialism.

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Old 11-13-2012, 09:45 AM #163
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if you're a soclialist just call it like it is.

don't pretend you're capitalists.



i'm for whatever works moving forward. i'm not for forcing wealthy people to take a step back to allow less fortunate people to get ahead without earning it. i'm all for a country that allows for upward mobility, but it can't be at the expense of the wealth that people have already earned. right now, we're capitalists, and you've got to work with capitalist principals.

you gotta earn it. being middle class is very, very easy.

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Old 11-13-2012, 09:57 AM #164
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Such a simple question from a naive point of view....

I support socialist programs but don't support a complete socialist govt. By the way, so does America because that's been it's policies since it became a country.

I don't think most Americans even know what socialism is, or the difference between socialism, capitalism, communism or any of these other words that republican talking heads spew out 24 hours a day.
This^^^^^^

Took the words right outta my head
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Old 11-13-2012, 10:30 AM #165
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Such a simple question from a naive point of view....

I support socialist programs but don't support a complete socialist govt. By the way, so does America because that's been it's policies since it became a country.

I don't think most Americans even know what socialism is, or the difference between socialism, capitalism, communism or any of these other words that republican talking heads spew out 24 hours a day.
This is where true naivete comes in.

You can't choose one part and then rebuke another.

SOCIALISM IS SOCIALISM.
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You can't find a middle ground where one gets to pick what items he/she wants and leave the rest.

You are either a socialist or you are for free market capitalism.

Here's another video of Milton Friedman. His words has an eerie truth decades in advance. Friedman talks here about the dynamics of free market capitalism as opposed to socialist economic policies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTLwANVtnkA

I apologize to any Liberal sensitivity here since Friedman in this video is educating a liberal.

@Squeel

You're just sad dude. Just because you have shown yourself to be intellectually bankrupt in this matter you have reduced yourself in this.
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Old 11-13-2012, 11:06 AM #166
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You do know that Medicare, FEMA, most student loans and financial aid, are all forms of socialisim right?

Are you against those aforementioned programs. Simple yes or no answer.

Yeah, see how loaded and full of **** supposedly "Simple, yes and no questions"
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Such a simple question from a naive point of view....

I support socialist programs but don't support a complete socialist govt. By the way, so does America because that's been it's policies since it became a country.

I don't think most Americans even know what socialism is, or the difference between socialism, capitalism, communism or any of these other words that republican talking heads spew out 24 hours a day.


lord politico telling people they're naive...
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Who is it and what did he do?
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This is where true naivete comes in.

You can't choose one part and then rebuke another.

SOCIALISM IS SOCIALISM.
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You can't find a middle ground where one gets to pick what items he/she wants and leave the rest.

You are either a socialist or you are for free market capitalism.

Here's another video of Milton Friedman. His words has an eerie truth decades in advance. Friedman talks here about the dynamics of free market capitalism as opposed to socialist economic policies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTLwANVtnkA

I apologize to any Liberal sensitivity here since Friedman in this video is educating a liberal.

@Squeel

You're just sad dude. Just because you have shown yourself to be intellectually bankrupt in this matter you have reduced yourself in this.
No, you can repeat it a million times but it doesn't make it fact. Not everyone accepts extreme ideals as the only options.

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lord politico telling people they're naive...
Well....is it not naive? Either your a socialist or your not? That's the choices we have?

So then America is a Socialist country then by this logic.
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No, you can repeat it a million times but it doesn't make it fact. Not everyone accepts extreme ideals as the only options.



Well....is it not naive? Either your a socialist or your not? That's the choices we have?

So then America is a Socialist country then by this logic.
The same can be said of your assertions sir.
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In fact VERY MUCH SO.

The good thing on my part is that I cite BASIS coming from ONE OF THE GREATEST AMERICAN ECONOMIC MIND OF THE 2OTH CENTURY.
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If you don't know who Milton Friedman is... Let's just say he's a VERY SMART AMERICAN.

THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND SINCE SOCIALISM AND FREE MARKET IDEALS ARE SO OPPOSITE OF EACH OTHER.

Isn't America already a SOCIALIST COUNTRY by default? Obamacare, excessive regulation, high taxes (which will go even higher), humongous government bureaucracy, etc. Afterall those are characteristics of a socialist state.

No middle ground sir.

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