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Old 09-26-2008, 05:07 PM
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After days of saying that John McCain would not attend Friday's presidential debate unless an agreement on a bailout package for the markets was "locked-down," the McCain campaign has gone back on its word.
On Friday, it announced that the Senator would head down to Mississippi even though, as they readily admit, much work remained needed on the bailout agreement.
The whole episode left even conservatives admitting that the McCain campaign looked erratic and a bit foolish with no apparent direction or guiding principle.
"It just proves his campaign is governed by tactics and not ideology," said Republican consultant Craig Shirley, who advised McCain earlier in this cycle. "In the end, he blinked and Obama did not. The 'steady hand in a storm' argument looks now to more favor Obama, not McCain."
Shirley added, "My guess is that plasma units are rushing to the McCain campaign as we speak to replace the blood flowing there from the fights among the staff."
Adding to the rocky perception was a McCain campaign web ad released this morning declaring "McCain Wins Debate!" -- put out even before the candidate had announced he was planning to debate.
Aides to Barack Obama were not, generally, surprised by the announcement, though nonetheless pleased. One called the Arizona Republican's gambit - of leaving the trail to supposedly forge a compromise on the bailout - a "failure." Other Democrats were equally biting in describing the moment.
"It means that people think he went back on his word," said Howard Wolfson, formerly the communications director for Hillary Clinton. "John McCain's presidential campaign has been in a death spiral since the Wall Street collapse and this summit gambit was an attempt to pull out of it. But it hasn't succeeded because McCain hasn't done anything to move the ball forward."
Allies of McCain tried to put the best spin on the announcement, saying that while the bailout legislation was not yet completed, McCain thought it best to address the nation.
"What's more important than anything that when we go to Mississippi tonight, both candidates can say that the Congress is working," said Sen. Lindsay Graham
But others couldn't help but admit that the Arizona Republican had mismanaged the whole scenario, basically walking himself into a corner, stuck with the choice of looking either scared or unprincipled.
"He will been seen as blinking first," Shirley declared, "since it was he who said he wasn't going until the crisis is averted. Hobson's choice, painted in a corner, bollixed -- pick your poison, or pick your cliche."



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Old 09-26-2008, 05:38 PM
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Tomorrow, while Obama resumes his smear campaigning, McCain will be returning to Washington to help iron out a deal by Monday.
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:57 PM
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Tomorrow, while Obama resumes his smear campaigning, McCain will be returning to Washington to help iron out a deal by Monday.
Jim, you do know that McCain was one of the Keating Five, right? Having him help out on the banking crisis is kinda like hiring John Hinckley, Jr. to coordinate security for Obama.

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Old 09-26-2008, 06:02 PM
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Jim, you do know that McCain was one of the Keating Five, right? Having him help out on the banking crisis is kinda like hiring John Hinckley, Jr. to coordinate security for Obama.
Obama's camp has promised that Barry has some witty little zingers like that prepared for tonight. I can't wait.
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Old 09-26-2008, 06:09 PM
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Obama's camp has promised that Barry has some witty little zingers like that prepared for tonight. I can't wait.
I can't wait for tomorrow:

"McCain WON, get it?"

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Old 09-26-2008, 06:12 PM
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Obama's camp has promised that Barry has some witty little zingers like that prepared for tonight. I can't wait.
First off, Obama is going to kick his nuts through the roof of his mouth. McCain has been dodging the debate all week, and when he gets his clock cleaned tonight, you and the other Hannitites will be playing the "He didn't have time to prepare" card.

Secondly, McCain actually WAS in the Keating Five. He was responsible for the first big bailout that harbored possibly illegal activity that might have wrecked Wall Street. Why shouldn't he put his foot into this, too?

Seriously. You're defending this guy? Still? What's your stake in this?
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Old 09-26-2008, 06:29 PM
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First off, Obama is going to kick his nuts through the roof of his mouth. McCain has been dodging the debate all week, and when he gets his clock cleaned tonight, you and the other Hannitites will be playing the "He didn't have time to prepare" card.

Secondly, McCain actually WAS in the Keating Five. He was responsible for the first big bailout that harbored possibly illegal activity that might have wrecked Wall Street. Why shouldn't he put his foot into this, too?

Seriously. You're defending this guy? Still? What's your stake in this?


...Not sure why you would come to that conclusion at all. Especially when it's a foreign policy debate. Your boy is not nearly as sharp as his cheerleaders seem to think he is. If it's all scripted out for him he's good to go. If he has to think as he goes along he's in deep ****.

....And another thing. This loony paranoid **** about Jim Jeffries being a Republican plant is getting old. It makes you look silly. Just knock it off.
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Old 09-26-2008, 06:55 PM
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...Not sure why you would come to that conclusion at all. Especially when it's a foreign policy debate. Your boy is not nearly as sharp as his cheerleaders seem to think he is. If it's all scripted out for him he's good to go. If he has to think as he goes along he's in deep ****.

....And another thing. This loony paranoid **** about Jim Jeffries being a Republican plant is getting old. It makes you look silly. Just knock it off.
You of all people on this board should know that I only do it because it gets his goat. And it is, frankly, plausible based on his posts, which makes it all the funnier.

I would be interested to know, seriously, what his stake is in having McCain as president. How, exactly, would he -- or you, for that matter -- benefit?
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You of all people on this board should know that I only do it because it gets his goat. And it is, frankly, plausible based on his posts, which makes it all the funnier.

I would be interested to know, seriously, what his stake is in having McCain as president. How, exactly, would he -- or you, for that matter -- benefit?
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