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Old 09-26-2008, 01:25 PM
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Not bums but very average fighters very very average fighters
They were not average.

The only thing that can be questioned is how would Marciano do against big heavyweights. He fought some big HW's but they were quite simply talentless.

Fights against top contenders of the era like Nino Valdes and Bob Baker would've answered some questions. Although I'm quite sure he wouldn't be given credit for those two wins either.
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:25 PM
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Marciano was a great fighter and a top10 HW all-time.

It takes a lot to reach 49 fights undefeated. Just ask Larry Holmes and ( ) Brian Nielsen.
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:25 PM
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is the most overrated FIGHTER of all time not just HW. His unbeaten record means nothing.
Yeah, undefeated in a very very weak area means nothing. Chagaevis undefeated so far what happens if he retires his way. He beat fighter bigger than him like Valuev unlike Rocky getting dropped by smaller men
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Joe Louis was the same age at 37, as Vitali Klitschko is right now.

Difference is, Vitali's been inactive for four years due to injuries.

Do we expect Peter to KO Vitali like Marciano KOed Louis?
I don't know I barley watch Klitschko or Samuel Peters. But we all know the BS Louis had went through, he was a whole other person. And he was just passed it.
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:27 PM
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They were not average.

The only thing that can be questioned is how would Marciano do against big heavyweights. He fought some big HW's but they were quite simply talentless.

Fights against top contenders of the era like Nino Valdes and Bob Baker would've answered some questions. Although I'm quite sure he wouldn't be given credit for those two wins either.
Oh please, don’t try to make it out they were something good. They were plain and simple average fighters nothing more nothing less
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:29 PM
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Norton Frazier Foreman Shavers Holmes Liston all beat Marciano ALI's resume
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:37 PM
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Oh please, don’t try to make it out they were something good. They were plain and simple average fighters nothing more nothing less
Joe Louis (62-2), aging former champion, coming off a win over HOFer Jimmy Bivins
Archie Moore (148-19), coming off a win over number 1 ranked HW Nino Valdes
Jersey Joe Walcott HW champion, flattened Ezzard Charles with one punch
Ezzard Charles (80-10) former HW champion, coming off KO win over Bob Satterfield
Roland LaStarza x2 (37-0), (53-3), coming off a win over Rex Layne
Harry 'Kid' Matthews (81-3)
Rex Layne (34-1), coming off wins over Satterfield and Jersey Joe Walcott

Believe me, I'm no Marciano defender, I've even been called a racist by some of his fans for criticizing Rocky's record but it's not as bad as you make it out to be.

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Old 09-26-2008, 01:41 PM
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Joe Louis (62-2), aging former champion, coming off a win over HOFer Jimmy Bivins
Archie Moore (148-19), coming off a win over number 1 ranked HW Nino Valdes
Jersey Joe Walcott HW champion, flattened Ezzard Charles with one punch
Ezzard Charles (80-10) former HW champion, coming off KO win over Bob Satterfield
Roland LaStarza x2 (37-0), (53-3), coming off a win over Rex Layne
Harry 'Kid' Matthews (81-3)
Rex Layne (34-1), coming off wins over Satterfield and Jersey Joe Walcott

Believe me, I'm no Marciano defender, I've even been called a racist by some of his fans for criticizing Rocky's record but it's not as bad as you make it out to be.
Is this meant to clean up Rocky weak resume and try to put some gloss on it??
It ain't that simple, very average fighters in a weak era
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You are from Finland I am thinking and are white, who would call you a racist?
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Flawless was banned for racism

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