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Old 08-20-2008, 03:13 PM
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Old 08-20-2008, 04:46 PM
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The ratings for their last CBS show went down and they're hoping a Kimbo Tyson-like win will satisfy the fans still sticking around...

...but pitiful in my opinion...
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:19 PM
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At least the writer is knowledgable in MMA. This is 100% true:

"The feeling among Elite XC execs, however, is that it's better to hold off on a Rogers-Slice showdown for fear that its cash cow, Kimbo, would lose, and thereby extinguish his marketability and the organization's potential pay-per-view debut."

Gotta give Gary Shaw credit, he may actually find someone who sucks MORE than James Thompson for his protected star to fight.
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:24 PM
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The ratings for their last CBS show went down and they're hoping a Kimbo Tyson-like win will satisfy the fans still sticking around...

...but pitiful in my opinion...
Good post. True EliteXC's numbers are down and not looking good. Contrast that to Affliction's numbers which were great and has MMA fans waiting intently for their next show. The difference is that Affliction had a Main Event with two Top 5 HWs and a loaded undercard, while Elite had a circus act headline their cards and a pretty weak undercard.
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:31 PM
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This is a low level MMA match that could attract one of the biggest PPV audiences in the history of the sport.

Non MMA people will be watching and it will be billed as a streetfight rematch.

This isnt good for MMA.
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:36 PM
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At least the writer is knowledgable in MMA. This is 100% true:

"The feeling among Elite XC execs, however, is that it's better to hold off on a Rogers-Slice showdown for fear that its cash cow, Kimbo, would lose, and thereby extinguish his marketability and the organization's potential pay-per-view debut."

Gotta give Gary Shaw credit, he may actually find someone who sucks MORE than James Thompson for his protected star to fight.
Jared Shaw and Chris Champion. Gary no longer is with EXC.

And Champion's a mook.

I'm surprised you don't know Josh Gross, formally of Sherdog fame.
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Old 08-21-2008, 01:18 AM
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Royal, you know your stuff bro.

I missed that about Gary Shaw. It's about time, that guy is clueless on MMA. He only got into MMA for the money and after boxers (like Jeff Lacy) refused to work with him. I wonder how well his son will do, or if the guy is just a puppet like Don King's son is.

I haven't gone to Sherdog for years, other than to confirm fighter records. Their forum and writers are for the most part retarded. Mr Gross seems to be a good sportswriter, no wonder he left.

What's a "mook"?
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Old 08-21-2008, 03:17 AM
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Royal, you know your stuff bro.

I missed that about Gary Shaw. It's about time, that guy is clueless on MMA. He only got into MMA for the money and after boxers (like Jeff Lacy) refused to work with him. I wonder how well his son will do, or if the guy is just a puppet like Don King's son is.

I haven't gone to Sherdog for years, other than to confirm fighter records. Their forum and writers are for the most part retarded. Mr Gross seems to be a good sportswriter, no wonder he left.

What's a "mook"?
$kaŁa (Jared. I **** you not, that's how he spells it) is Gary's puppet.

A mook is an idiot. A moron. CBS replaced someone who knew a little bit about fighting with a guy who knows nothing about fighting. That's why Ken Shamrock was on the short list.

Gross left Sherdog because ESPN wasn't doing it's job and let him access UFC events to get to the hard hitting stories. SI just happened to want to open an MMA office at the time.
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Old 08-21-2008, 10:02 AM
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I've said that EliteXC will not survive long, and it looks like they are on their last legs. They replaced Gary Shaw to appease their current investors and attract new ones as well. Those people knew he was in idiot bleeding the company dry. Yet the morons at Elite are trying to fool the investors while still keeping him around. Pure idiocracy.

http://www.proeliteinc.com/phoenix.z...961&highlight=

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Gross left Sherdog because ESPN wasn't doing it's job and let him access UFC events to get to the hard hitting stories. SI just happened to want to open an MMA office at the time.
I remember a few years ago Dana White stopped giving Sherdog press credentials at UFC events. ESPN doesn't really cover MMA with their own guys, they let Sherdog's guys do it then just post the Sherdog stories and credit Sherdog. I bet that's why Gross couldn't access UFC events, because he still worked for Sherdog and not ESPN.

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Old 08-21-2008, 06:38 PM
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Good post. True EliteXC's numbers are down and not looking good. Contrast that to Affliction's numbers which were great and has MMA fans waiting intently for their next show. The difference is that Affliction had a Main Event with two Top 5 HWs and a loaded undercard, while Elite had a circus act headline their cards and a pretty weak undercard.
And what I don't understand about that is that EliteXC has some legitimate talent in their organization...ProElite owns/works with how many feds - and they can't raid them all and put a fantastic card on CBS?

A show with Carano and another top female athlete, with Jake Shields, with Cung Le, with that 130lber from Cage Rage whose name is escaping me, and you can open the show with K. Shamrock vs. Kimbo or something to draw the fans in initially, but the rest of the card could be a good one... I don't understand why they won't go in that direction
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