Why Margarito and Pavlik shed light on Boxing

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  • ALT-Assassin
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    Why Margarito and Pavlik shed light on Boxing

    I have been hearing from many posters that the higher divisions in boxing are devoid of talent and the only reason Pavlik or Klitchko are champions is because of a bad era in boxing.These same people suggest all the talent is in the lower weight classes and becasue all these "pristine" athletes are playing other sports,the higher divisions lack the talent.It is a pitifull attempt to try to discredit other champions for the opponents that are put in front of them.

    The point I am trying to make is that Margarito is not a technical boxer with a swift Jab or accuarate combinations but what he has is far greater than any of that.His will and chin allow him to execute his gameplan as well as his opponent.No one can argue that Cotto lacks in any fundementals that pretain to boxing but Margarito still beat him and that is why talent sometimes doesn't out weigh the determination to execute your game plan for twelve full rounds.If Margarito can earn the number spot in one of the most talented divisions Pavlik should be able to do the same.Kelly shares some of the same qualities of Margarito,his chin is not as good but he can walk through punches and execute his game when even coming off the canvas.I would argue that Pavlik is the better boxer of the both but it is there will that allows them to win against the better technical boxers.

    These fighters deserve all the respect in the world as they put on a show and keep coming forward no matter what.They may not be a Leanord or a Hagler but who is?No era will be as good as the last and legends don't come often so why do people need to compare current boxers to them?In closing appreciate what is put in front of you because you never know when you are going to miss it.The way these fighters conduct themselves in the ring will shorten their career.
    Last edited by ALT-Assassin; 07-27-2008, 09:54 PM.
  • DiegoFuego
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    there are always a few guys in the list that aren't considered talented, but I don't remember there ever being this many

    I remember in 2004 when the pound for pound list was a hell of a lot more impressive than it is today. I think it was May 2004 when we had:

    1. Roy
    2. Hopkins
    3. Mayweather
    4. Tszyu
    5. Wright
    6. Pacquiao
    7. Spinks
    8. Morales
    9. Barrera
    10. Corrales maybe?

    I mean that is worlds better than what we've got today, but by the same token you look at the last couple years and think the fights are getting better every year because we have more sluggers and less guys with real ability.

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      #3
      Originally posted by DiegoFuego
      there are always a few guys in the list that aren't considered talented, but I don't remember there ever being this many

      I remember in 2004 when the pound for pound list was a hell of a lot more impressive than it is today. I think it was May 2004 when we had:

      1. Roy
      2. Hopkins
      3. Mayweather
      4. Tszyu
      5. Wright
      6. Pacquiao
      7. Spinks
      8. Morales
      9. Barrera
      10. Corrales maybe?

      I mean that is worlds better than what we've got today, but by the same token you look at the last couple years and think the fights are getting better every year because we have more sluggers and less guys with real ability.
      There is always going to be a downtime in boxing,but the fighters that make it should not be thought as untalented.They are pro boxers who train just as hard as the talented ones and that deserves respect.

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      • MANGLER
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        As fans, we wanna see good fights. As long as they're excitin to watch fighters get love shown to them. Guys like Pavlik and Tony aren't the most skilled guys but sometimes it's better to be tough than good. Both have some skill but they rely more on heart and if that beats their opponents, what's not to like?

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          #5
          Originally posted by mangler
          As fans, we wanna see good fights. As long as they're excitin to watch fighters get love shown to them. Guys like Pavlik and Tony aren't the most skilled guys but sometimes it's better to be tough than good. Both have some skill but they rely more on heart and if that beats their opponents, what's not to like?
          Very True

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          • fightingfigs
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            #6
            Pavlik doe shave skill. he reminds me of an Alexis Arguello but Margaritos belts are due to his chin and ability to absorb shots.

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              #7
              Originally posted by fightingfigs
              Pavlik doe shave skill. he reminds me of an Alexis Arguello but Margaritos belts are due to his chin and ability to absorb shots.
              Pavlik has a better defense and a better jab but Margarito knows how to cut the ring off and can hit from weird angles.He also has a devastating uppercut with one of the if not the best chins in boxing.

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              • clarkhillfitnes
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                Pavlik's good on his feet and delivers a good jab. This may not be the boxing era of the 80's or 90's, but there's still a lot of good talent in the sport.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by clarkhillfitnes
                  Pavlik's good on his feet and delivers a good jab. This may not be the boxing era of the 80's or 90's, but there's still a lot of good talent in the sport.

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                  Yes there is,but some people just don't want to acknowledge that.

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