Great Britain vs USA the facts.

**BROOKLYN CESAR** · 04-13-2008, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by mickey gomez

Firstly I must state I am neither British nor American.

I see a lot of threads on this forum about how British boxing is a joke, has no real fighters etc. Rather than partake in the name calling, unverified general claims and insult slinging I've decided to study the list of current world champions and find out what nation is actually ahead in terms of championship belts.

Note: Many people have different opinions on the value of respective belts, but I am being subjective, I leave the discussion as to the worth of alphabet titles up to you.

Two things worth remembering.

Great Britain has a population of 57,100,000.

United States of America has a population of 303,833,000.

Current World Champions: USA

Heavyweight: none

Cruiserweight: Steve Cunningham IBF

Light Heavyweight: Chad Dawson WBC Antonio Tarver IBF Bernard Hopkins The Ring

Super Middle Weight: none

Middleweight: Kelly Pavlik WBC WBO The Ring

Junior Middleweight: Vernon Forrest WBC Verno Phillips IBF

Welterweight: Floyd Mayweather Jr. IBF The Ring

Junior Welterweight: Paul Malignaggi IBF

Lightweight: Nate Campbell WBA WBO IBF David D�az WBC

Super featherweight: none

Featherweight: Robert Guerrero IBF Steven Luevano WBO

Super bantamweight: none

Bantamweight: none

Super flyweight: none

Flyweight: none

Light flyweight: none

Strawweight: none

Current World Champions Great Britain

Heavyweight: none

Cruiserweight: David Haye WBA WBO WBC The Ring

Light Heavyweight: none

Super Middle Weight: Joe Calzaghe WBA WBC WBO The Ring

Middleweight: none

Junior Middleweight:

Welterweight: none

Junior Welterweight: Junior Witter WBC Ricky Hatton The Ring

Lightweight:

Super featherweight: Alex Arthur WBO (interm)

Featherweight: none

Super bantamweight: none

Bantamweight: none

Super flyweight: none

Flyweight: none

Light flyweight: none

Strawweight: none

USA Fighters: 13 Titles: 17

Great Britain Fighters: 5 Titles: 11

USA are ahead by a clear margin in the amount of fighters who hold titles, which was to be expected given the difference in population.

USA also lead in the amount of titles held but by only 6 belts. Which is not a huge difference when population is considered.

Please point out any mistakes or oversights I may have made

Thats a well done list!!!

I like boxers from both countries and i think both have some awesome boxers!!!

**Horus** · 04-13-2008, 01:44 AM

Floyd is the The IBF, He is the WBC champion..

**Left2body** · 04-13-2008, 01:46 AM

Your counting interim championships? Might as well count the NABF and the CWB too.

**Mickey Gomez** · 04-13-2008, 07:34 AM

Floyd is the The IBF, He is the WBC champion..

Yup, just edited it.

**Mickey Gomez** · 04-13-2008, 07:37 AM

Your counting interim championships? Might as well count the NABF and the CWB too.

The iterm champion tag is only applicable in two cases; Nate Campbell and Alex Arthurm so technically they cancel each other out. But to include the NABF and CWB would not be worthwhile imo.

**MANGLER** · 04-13-2008, 07:53 AM

Good post with good intentions, but who cares? This whole US vs Brits **** on here is gettin ridiculous. I say **** the bigotry and just watch the fights.

**Bobby Shaw** · 04-13-2008, 08:12 AM

It's important to know the USA has a lot more people than the UK,we only 60million and the USA its 300million.To expect equal numbers of Champions is lack of judgement.

Having said that however,the customers in the UK fall for anything.Can anyone understand how 55000 fools bought tickets to go and watch Hatton fighting a nobody.Fans here are not demanding,if they were they wouldnt buy stuff like that.

The same explains why it took Hatton 38fights to face a real champion and how Calzaghe could afford to fight the likes of Ashira and still getting paid.By the time Mayweather had the same fights as Amir Khan,Mayweather was already a world champion,we might wait some 27fights from Khan to see that happening.

By the time these guys face real champions they fall

**squealpiggy** · 04-13-2008, 08:32 AM

Originally posted by chiyoko

It's important to know the USA has a lot more people than the UK,we only 60million and the USA its 300million.To expect equal numbers of Champions is lack of judgement.

Having said that however,the customers in the UK fall for anything.Can anyone understand how 55000 fools bought tickets to go and watch Hatton fighting a nobody.Fans here are not demanding,if they were they wouldnt buy stuff like that.

The same explains why it took Hatton 38fights to face a real champion and how Calzaghe could afford to fight the likes of Ashira and still getting paid.By the time Mayweather had the same fights as Amir Khan,Mayweather was already a world champion,we might wait some 27fights from Khan to see that happening.

By the time these guys face real champions they fall

The first time Bernard Hopkins fought a real Middleweight with any sort of class was when he lost to Roy Jones Junior. The second time he fought a real middleweght with any sort of class was when he lost to Jermaine Taylor. Sure you can point out the likes of Evans Ashira but there again... Carl Daniels? Howard Eastman? Yet Hopkins is a "Legend" and Calzaghe is "Protected".

It can be argued (and certainly was) that Joe was facing a huge step up in class when he fought Jeff Lacy. It was only afterwards that every single American seems to have known all along that Lacy was no good...

**Gatti9783** · 04-13-2008, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by squealpiggy

The first time Bernard Hopkins fought a real Middleweight with any sort of class was when he lost to Roy Jones Junior. The second time he fought a real middleweght with any sort of class was when he lost to Jermaine Taylor. Sure you can point out the likes of Evans Ashira but there again... Carl Daniels? Howard Eastman? Yet Hopkins is a "Legend" and Calzaghe is "Protected".

By that logic, Calzaghe-Hopkins should be meaningless to you. Two fighters out of their respective weight classes. Calzaghe isn't a light heavyweight with "any sort of class," neither is Hopkins. I guess you won't be tuning in.

Great Britain vs USA the facts.