Official Steroid Break-down: Toney, Mosley, Vargas, And Jones Jr.

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  • THE REED
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    Official Steroid Break-down: Toney, Mosley, Vargas, And Jones Jr.

    I felt the need to really research myself, the differences in the steroid issues between fighters. After I have provided you all with detailed FACTS, make your own conclusion.


    James Toney

    Tested Positive for: boldenone and stanazolol

    Toney tested positive for boldenone and stanazolol, and Batchelder tested positive for stanazolol and oxandolone, Garcia said. If they don't appeal, the boxers would be suspended one year from the date of their fight.

    Three-time champion James Toney tested positive for steroids and could face a one-year suspension from boxing.



    Generic name: Boldenone Undecylenate

    Boldenone undecyclenate is a very popular steroid. This steroid is only available legally at a veterinarian clinic. Boldenone is a highly anabolic, moderately androgenic steroid. For this very reason, it is typically taken in a stack with other steroids like testosterone if you are on a mass cycle or perhaps with winstrol if you are on a cutting cycle. The main benefit of taking equipoise is that it increases protein synthesis in the muscle cells. Boldenone gives you slower but much more high quality gains in muscle as opposed to the normal "quick" muscle gains that you would expect from a testosterone. You can expect around 3 weeks before you start seeing results and they are not going to be staggering, but will be "more permanent" than any gains you would get from any of the multiple testosterones that are available. This steroid stays active in the system longer than most of the testosterones as well. This makes equipoise a poor choice if you run the possibility of being drug tested.




    Stanazolol also known as Winstrol

    Winstrol® is a popular brand name for the anabolic steroid stanozolol. This compound is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone, although its activity is much milder than this androgen in nature. It is technically classified as an anabolic steroid, shown to exhibit a slightly greater tendency for muscle growth than androgenic activity in early studies. While dihydrotestosterone really only provides androgenic side effects when administered, stanozolol instead provides quality muscle growth. Admittedly the anabolic properties of this substance are still mild in comparison to many stronger compounds, but it is still a reliable builder.



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    Shane Mosley

    Tested positive for "The Cream" and the "The Clear" From BALCO Laboratories.

    Shane Mosley said last night that he inadvertently took two designer steroids — "the cream" and "the clear" — before his championship fight against Oscar De La Hoya in 2003 after he was misled by BALCO founder Victor Conte about what he was actually taking.




    The Cream

    The Cream is the slang name given by Victor Conte to a transdermal designer steroid, containing testosterone and epitestosterone, designed by BALCO to avoid detection on drug tests. While testosterone is certainly an anabolic steroid, epitestosterone is simply an inactive epimer of the parent hormone hormone. The reason the latter would be included in “the cream” along with testosterone is to beat doping tests based on the testosterone:epitestosterone ratio.

    Roughly 50% of epitestosterone production in human males is from the testes (1), the rest being produced via other pathways (2). In general a 1:1 ratio is a normal testosterone:epitestosterone ratio. Both testosterone as well as epitestosterone (3) are able to be tested for on a doping control test.

    The Cream is a powerful anabolic steroid applied directly to the skin. Using The Cream can bring muscle gain.




    The Clear

    Unlike most anabolic steroids, this one was synthesized in the last couple of years with the intent for it to be used by athletes seeking to beat sports doping tests. It’s actually a pretty decent anabolic, basically being a cross between gestrinone and trenbolone (1) Frankly, it would have likely still been beating tests and helping athletes break records, if a sample of it hadn’t been sent by Trevor Graham (2-3), a disgruntled coach, to Don Cailin of the World Anti-Doping Agency.

    The Clear became a popular steroid used during the Balco scandal. Balco gave this undetectable steroid to many professional athletes to gain an edge.



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    Fernando Vergas

    Tested Positive for Stanozolol.

    Marc Ratner, the athletic commission's executive director, said that Vargas' post-fight urinalysis came back positive for stanozolol. It's the same drug that cost sprinter Ben Johnson his gold medal and world record in the 100 meters at the 1988 Olympics

    Two-time junior middleweight champion Fernando Vargas is disputing claims by the Nevada Athletic Commission on Friday that he used steroids before his loss to Oscar De La Hoya two weeks ago.



    Stanozolol (also known as winstrol)

    Winstrol® is a popular brand name for the anabolic steroid stanozolol. This compound is a derivative of dihydrotestosterone, although its activity is much milder than this androgen in nature. It is technically classified as an anabolic steroid, shown to exhibit a slightly greater tendency for muscle growth than androgenic activity in early studies. While dihydrotestosterone really only provides androgenic side effects when administered, stanozolol instead provides quality muscle growth. Admittedly the anabolic properties of this substance are still mild in comparison to many stronger compounds, but it is still a reliable builder.




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    Roy Jones Jr

    Tested positive for androstenedione.

    The post-fight drug test showed Jones and Hall both tested positive for androstenedione, which is a banned substance by the IBF. Androstenedione is a natural steroid hormone that was commonly available over the counter as a supplement until 2004 when the FDA made the over the counter sale of androstenedione illegal. Jones admitted to taking the product "ripped fuel" which was sold in GNC and every nutritional supplement outlet.Jones was able to keep his title and was not fined or suspended for the positive test. All of Jones' other post-fight drug tests before and after this fight came back clean. He ended the year by stopping Eric Harding in the 10th round of a one sided fight, once again successfully retaining the title.


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    Androstenedione

    Androstenedione is a steroid hormone produced in the adrenal glands and ovaries. It functions as a precursor to both testosterone and estrogen. Androstenedione ("andro") is manufactured as a dietary supplement and marketed as a natural alternative to anabolic steroids, claiming to enhance sports performance and increases muscle mass. However, some studies suggest that Androstenedione supplementation may have adverse health consequences due to its androgenic and estrogenic properties. [1-4] Androstenedione has been banned by The National Football League, International Olympic Committee, and the National Collegiate Athletic Association.

    Due to the lack of proven benefits and the potential risks, on March 11, 2004, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) suggested that manufactures stop distributing andro supplements. [5] In October, 2004, the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004 was approved by the Senate and the House, and signed into law by President George W. Bush. As of January 20, 2005, this law is now enforceable.





    PITTSBURGH--General Nutrition Centers (GNC) will begin checking customer ID to verify the shopper is 18 years or older when buying products intended for adult use. Affected GNC products include those containing ephedra, kava, melatonin,androstenedione or synephrine, which all have warning labels regarding underage usage.

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    Maybe its me, but a lot of those seem very DIFFERENT to me...

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      #3
      Originally posted by reedickyaluss
      Maybe its me, but a lot of those seem very DIFFERENT to me...
      Good post. Seems like Roy was trying to take a natural supplement which wasn't even considered a real steroid. It may or may not have played a role to his decline coming down from heavyweight.

      Mosley definitely knew what he was taking. Claiming that he didn't know what it was is BS. He came to them so he would get away with it. If it was a detectable steroid and he got busted, his claim that to not knowing what it was would have been more credible.

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        #4
        Originally posted by vladimir303
        Good post. Seems like Roy was trying to take a natural supplement which wasn't even considered a real steroid. It may or may not have played a role to his decline coming down from heavyweight.

        Mosley definitely knew what he was taking. Claiming that he didn't know what it was is BS. He came to them so he would get away with it. If it was a detectable steroid and he got busted, his claim that to not knowing what it was would have been more credible.
        Hey man I respect your opinion... Ive debated to death about it... figured id just lay out a non biased fact sheet on what took place with links, examples, and comparisons... make your own decisions.

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        • Silencers
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          #5
          Good post. Interesting stuff. Now I'm waiting for moofo.......

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          • Run
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            Yes.

            Well great thread, it's the long version of Toney testing positive two times and Vargas for prescription only anabolic steroids, and Roy testing positive for a compound that at the time wasn't considered an illegal steroid by the FDA and was sold OTC......until further research showed it's nearly identical to an anabolic steroid.



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              James Toney is a fat **** who doesn't work out and therefore imo, his steroid use is excused. It didn't play any role in his performances, he has skills. He was trying to get in better shape the easy way and he got busted, simple as that.

              He probably thought that it wouldn't show in the blood tests because he stopped using ahead of time and got busted.

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                I have got on here several times and wrote about this- the stuff Roy used was a supplement called Ripped Fuel - good post.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by vladimir303
                  James Toney is a fat **** who doesn't work out and therefore imo, his steroid use is excused. It didn't play any role in his performances, he has skills. He was trying to get in better shape the easy way and he got busted, simple as that.

                  He probably thought that it wouldn't show in the blood tests because he stopped using ahead of time and got busted.
                  There's really no way of telling if steroids did in fact aid in keeping his strength at par with other naturally bigger guys.

                  lol Doesn't work out............I don't know about that, Chief.



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                  • phallus
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by RunW/Knives
                    Yes.

                    Well great thread, it's the long version of Toney testing positive two times and Vargas for prescription only anabolic steroids, and Roy testing positive for a compound that at the time wasn't considered an illegal steroid by the FDA and was sold OTC......until further research showed it's nearly identical to an anabolic steroid.
                    the other time toney got busted it was for nandrolone...and i knew roy was on something because he went from 180 lbs to 199 lbs of ripped muscle in less than six months, guy with his middleweight bone structure can't do that **** naturally... don't get me wrong, roy is still one of my favorite fighters

                    and shane, i knew when i saw him at 154, he looked like a powerlifter all of a sudden and in a pretty quick ****ing time. that cream really works

                    vargas LOL, even juiced he still got knocked the **** out by the drag queen, oscar de la fishnets

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