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Old 10-13-2007, 01:26 AM
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Sherdog's beatdown radio.. they're talking about the Couture situation. I'm listening right now, these guys are pretty inciteful and break it down pretty well. May have more thoughts when i'm done listening.
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:48 AM
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Towards the end of the show, a caller askes about the contractural situation, and raised the concern that Randy wouldnt be able to fight for other orgs. They just boffed at this, saying "well, its not like any commision is not going to sanction Randy because the UFC asked them not to."

They may just be incompetent when it comes to law, but I'd assume that what they said is accurate.. if that was a legitimate concern then they'd ought to know about it. Ofcourse alot of legal shannegans may occur, but I'm thinking its a calculated move and Randy's legal team should know what they're doing.
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Old 10-13-2007, 12:46 PM
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Towards the end of the show, a caller askes about the contractural situation, and raised the concern that Randy wouldnt be able to fight for other orgs. They just boffed at this, saying "well, its not like any commision is not going to sanction Randy because the UFC asked them not to."

They may just be incompetent when it comes to law, but I'd assume that what they said is accurate.. if that was a legitimate concern then they'd ought to know about it. Ofcourse alot of legal shannegans may occur, but I'm thinking its a calculated move and Randy's legal team should know what they're doing.
Couture is contractually obligated w/ the UFC and it probably includes outside fights. If he fights outside of the US for somebody other than the UFC he'll probably be voiding it and will be forced to pay millions for it.
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Old 10-13-2007, 05:00 PM
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Couture is contractually obligated w/ the UFC and it probably includes outside fights. If he fights outside of the US for somebody other than the UFC he'll probably be voiding it and will be forced to pay millions for it.
Agreed. It's a no-win for Randy. Unless he makes major coin for fighting Fedor. But that wont happen.
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:57 PM
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Couture is contractually obligated w/ the UFC and it probably includes outside fights. If he fights outside of the US for somebody other than the UFC he'll probably be voiding it and will be forced to pay millions for it.
Yeah, thats the same **** i've been saying.. but the fact that these guys didn't mention it, even when asked directly, means 1 of 2 things: They don't know what the **** they're talking about, or that the concern of our's is inflated.

Obviously Dana White's comments that "Randy is still under contract.. I'll be ready to promote him if he comes back" are intended to make us think that ****, but really who knows.. none of us actually know the contents of the contract. And who knows, maybe he's intending to sue or buy his way out of it or some ****. I'm thinking that he has options aside from hanging just hanging his head.
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Old 10-14-2007, 01:16 AM
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Yeah, thats the same **** i've been saying.. but the fact that these guys didn't mention it, even when asked directly, means 1 of 2 things: They don't know what the **** they're talking about, or that the concern of our's is inflated.
I bolded the important type. 99% of fans of boxing and MMA don't understand politics and negotiations that take place. People simply don't understand how little control the fighters actually have. THey sign over deal after deal and lose their power. People instead use fights that don't get made as the fighter's fault instead of the handlers.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:29 AM
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I bolded the important type. 99% of fans of boxing and MMA don't understand politics and negotiations that take place. People simply don't understand how little control the fighters actually have. THey sign over deal after deal and lose their power. People instead use fights that don't get made as the fighter's fault instead of the handlers.
Uhh yeah, so?? Those aren't fans dude, they're media.. big difference. Whether or not they understand the ****, they have access to information we don't and it is they're job to know **** that most people don't and to sift through all the information. I'm saying, its possible that they missed this point, but I think that if this was as big a concern as we're making it out to be, they'd ought to know about it. They should be aware of this situation.. if not, they're not properly doing their job. Thus, their analysis is worth taking seriously.. though with a grain of salt.
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Old 10-14-2007, 09:24 PM
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Uhh yeah, so?? Those aren't fans dude, they're media.. big difference.
Hah, honestly there isn't much of a difference. At this point in MMA's new found popularity; the media that covers it are fans. And even if they are simply qualified journalists... they still don't know ****. That's what legal teams and departments are for
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:03 AM
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Hah, honestly there isn't much of a difference. At this point in MMA's new found popularity; the media that covers it are fans. And even if they are simply qualified journalists... they still don't know ****. That's what legal teams and departments are for
Dude, do you know what sherdog is?? Its a website devoted to covering MMA.. nothing else. So you're wrong when you say they are the same as fans.

Besides, quit spinning what I said. I said what they said is worth giving serious consideration, not that its fact. ****ing **** man, why are some people so hard to talk to.
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