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| View Poll Results: DID YOU PRAY THAT PRAYER AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS THREAD TO GOD FROM YOUR HEART? | |||
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23 | 9.47% |
| I ALREADY ASKED JESUS TO COME INTO MY HEART BEFORE |
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68 | 27.98% |
| NO |
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152 | 62.55% |
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Victory has defeated you
Join Date: Feb 2006
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I think any true Boxing fan will admit Evander Holyfield and George Foreman are both living legends and All Time Great Champions. And both of these guys believe in God. Foreman even got down in the ring and prayed after KO'ing Moorer. They both have a very strong faith and belief in God.
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Trousersnake fondler
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: England
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Age: 37
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Free will to what? If you read the word, you will see that the tree was there from the beguining, sin did not enter until eve was tempted, now, who allowed that? The temptation was there from the beguining, tree was there and they were told not to eat from it, but they didn't fall until God allowed or send the serpent to directly mess with eve. Now if you say that Jesus had to die because God had no choice but to send us to hell, then by this line of thinking God has no love or absolute power. You see, he is the one that makes the rules, he is the one that defines sin, and he is the one that says the price of sin is death. Now with that being clear, if he is all powerfull he can also say, I forgive your sins and be done with it, you are guilty but I will forgive your sins, this goes into the all powerfull God. Your last sentence is absolutly correct. That does not change the fact that it is God's choice to have an inocent man die, so you me and everyone else can get into heaven on a loop hole, does not sound like an ethical thing to do. Are you following what I am trying to say? Here we go if you didn't get it. God created everything, the way he wanted it including Lucifer. He knew from the beguining that Lucifer would turn on him for whatever reson. He screwed up or knowingly set up everything for humans to fail. Don't know which is worst. Then after this if it wasn't on purpose he said, oh crap this is all screwed up, let me flood the earth. After that he said I screwed up again, I will make a promise not to flood the earth again. Do you not see that evertime he does something he tries to fix it and it doesn't work? After this came poor Jesus, I screwed up so bad and I don' t want to admit it that I have to sacrifice Jesus to create a loophole that allows humans to come to heaven to worship me because if I don't no one will come to heaven without me going back on my word. |
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Would you worship someone that you don't know? Well I guess to know someone you have to question. Even the bible says that is good to question, study the word and so forth. Man has to question to see if God is worthy of worship and the reason for this is the same as free will. You have to accept the good with the bad and then say you know what? I can see clearly and I accept this, therfore I choose to worship God. It's not that hard to see why we question.
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