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Old 07-20-2007, 02:47 AM
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Default BOXING'S GREATEST FIGHTERS - Bert Randolph Sugar

"Bert Sugar has a passion for the sport that is rivaled only by his talent for writing about it" - New York Sportscene


FOREWORD
Bert Randolph Sugar, known as the "unofficial historian" and "the guru" of boxing, is one of the most charismatic writers ever to capture the drama of fights and fighters on paper. One of the most recognizable personalities in the sport, Sugar - with his trademark fedora and cigar - has been called "entertaining, insightful, and eminently colorful." A member of the International Boxing Hall of Fame, he has served as the editor of The Ring, Boxing Illustrated, and Fight Game magazines, and is the author of more than fifty books.

Bert Randolph Sugar

"...No amount of fistic bookkeeping could account for "greatness" absent other elements in the equation." - Bert Sugar

100 Greatest Boxers of All Time
  1. Sugar Ray Robinson
  2. Henry Armstrong
  3. Willie Pep
  4. Joe Louis
  5. Harry Greb
  6. Benny Leonard
  7. Muhammad Ali
  8. Roberto Duran
  9. Jack Dempsey
  10. Jack Johnson
  11. Mickey Walker
  12. Tony Canzoneri
  13. Gene Tunney
  14. Rocky Marciano
  15. Joe Gans
  16. Sam Langford
  17. Julio Cesar Chavez
  18. Jimmy Wild
  19. Stanley Ketchel
  20. Barney Ross
  21. Jimmy McLarnin
  22. Archie Moore
  23. Marcel Cerdan
  24. Ezzard Charles
  25. Sugar Ray Leonard
  26. Joe Walcott
  27. Jake LaMptta
  28. Eder Jofre
  29. Emile Griffith
  30. Terry McGovern
  31. George Foreman
  32. Johnny Dundee
  33. Jose Napoles
  34. Pascual Perez
  35. Billy Conn
  36. Ruben Olivares
  37. Joe Frazier
  38. Tommy Loughran
  39. Sandy Saddler
  40. Kid Chocolate
  41. Abe Atell
  42. Evander Holyfield
  43. George Dixon
  44. Maxie Rosenbloom
  45. Larry Holmes
  46. Ted "Kid" Lewis
  47. Marvelous Marvin Hagler
  48. Pernell Whitaker
  49. Carlos Zarate
  50. Thomas Hearns
  51. Battling Nelson
  52. Beau Jack
  53. Ricardo Lopez
  54. John L. Sullivan
  55. Carlos Monzon
  56. Alexis Arguello
  57. Carmen Basilio
  58. Pete Herman
  59. Charley Burley
  60. Ike Williams
  61. Kid Gavilan
  62. Jack Britton
  63. Dick Tiger
  64. Pancho Villa
  65. Panama Al Brown
  66. Bob Fitzsimmons
  67. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
  68. Tiger Flowers
  69. James J. Corbett
  70. Tony Zale
  71. Tommy Ryan
  72. Georges Carpentier
  73. Sonny Liston
  74. "Kid" McCoy
  75. Bob Foster
  76. Freddie Welsh
  77. Joe Jeannette
  78. Jim Driscoll
  79. Jersey Joe Walcott
  80. Peter Jackson
  81. Ad Wolgast
  82. Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
  83. Manuel Ortiz
  84. James J. Jeffries
  85. Salvador Sanchez
  86. Jimmy Barry
  87. Carlos Ortiz
  88. Roy Jones, Jr.
  89. Wilfredo Gomez
  90. Aaron Pryor
  91. Bernard Hopkins
  92. Mike Gibbons
  93. Jack Delaney
  94. Johnny Kilbane
  95. Willie Ritchie
  96. Wilfredo Benitez
  97. Packey McFarland
  98. Rocky Graziano
  99. Lew Jenkins
  100. Mike Tyson
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SEE APPENDIX AT POST #39

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Old 07-20-2007, 02:56 AM
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mayweathers not number 1? clearly this guy is an idiot and needs to watch more boxing
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:13 AM
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mayweathers not number 1? clearly this guy is an idiot and needs to watch more boxing
Aren't you more upset that he doesn't even make the list?
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:23 AM
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I like Bert but cummon,he's got Sugar Ray Leonard 25th??
Julio Cesar Chavez #17 but Pernell Whitaker #48th? Even though he was one of the best fighters ever,beat Julio Cesar Chavez easily and got robbed with a DRAW,i dont see how Chavez can be ranked higher
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:02 AM
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there is no more than 10 fighters on this list who even fought in the 90s.. bert like his oldies.. people really thought floyd was going to be on this list?
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:28 AM
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mayweathers not number 1? clearly this guy is an idiot and needs to watch more boxing
He overates a lot of the old timers. Like Benny Leonard. #6 all time? gimme a break, id put him at LEAST 10 spots higher on the list.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:50 AM
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Bert sugar, is an old nostalgic fool, mike tyson only at 100
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:41 AM
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Bert sugar, is an old nostalgic fool, Mike Tyson only at 100
To me, that's the most glaring absurdity (for lack of a better word) of all. It might have been less of an outrage not to include Tyson at all. As for the generational bias, that's perfectly understandable, as it's human nature to favor one's contemporaries.
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:45 AM
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Bert sugar, is an old nostalgic fool, mike tyson only at 100
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i dont care much for bert sugar. theres some good fighters on that list but my list would be WAY different, and yes robjr, i think floyd mayweather SHOULD be on a list of top 100 fighters, especially if leonard and sweet pea are. my opinion.
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:48 AM
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I don't respect him at all. Mayweather not even on the list? Haha yeah ****ing right.
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