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Old 03-05-2007, 11:48 PM #1
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I tend to go in there range alittle to much i've seen,reason why I gotta do so much defense on the inside.I think jabbing outside and they come in with a combo after the jab and getting back out of range is a great idea.

Any of you guys have that same problem,like you cant distance yourself properly? bit habit to break
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I'm 6 feet, 150, so I'm on the opposite end. I find people who throw a good, quick head,body,head combo as the move to the inside tend to pose a problem to me. I find I can outjab them when they try to jab comin' inside, but if they pull of a good combo, I find myself in trouble

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Def too much.

With my height and reach I should be untouchable always, from what I've been told.

But too may times when I have my opponent covering up I'll get too caught up into it and move into their range.

I should be able to just sit outside and bomb away but I like my left hook as tight as possible.
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:14 AM #4
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No the opposite, im the fighter that 9 times out 10 is the one who has opponents falling into range for me.

Its just the style of fight that you choose to do on someone. My style is to make them miss and counter straight after... so i'm always slightly in range (to draw the shot), then completely out of range, then back in my own range between attacks to hit them.

Its natural that as an inside fighter you would fall into your opponents range... its just the ability to not telegraph your movements and also to avoid shots when you are there which is gonna set you apart from the people who get hit and the people who dont.
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No the opposite, im the fighter that 9 times out 10 is the one who has opponents falling into range for me.

Its just the style of fight that you choose to do on someone. My style is to make them miss and counter straight after... so i'm always slightly in range (to draw the shot), then completely out of range, then back in my own range between attacks to hit them.

Its natural that as an inside fighter you would fall into your opponents range... its just the ability to not telegraph your movements and also to avoid shots when you are there which is gonna set you apart from the people who get hit and the people who dont.
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personally, i was always taught to stay within that bubble of range, but at an angle on the outside that makes it impossible for them to hit you with a decent punch.
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personally, i was always taught to stay within that bubble of range, but at an angle on the outside that makes it impossible for them to hit you with a decent punch.
Hell yes, I love throwing people off with angles. All it takes is a sidestep and their whole walk forward attack has just missed... most of the time. Or do it as you are pressuring them. Come at them and then boom! a quick switch to the right and they have to readjust but then the shots have already landed. Confuses the **** out of people.
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A guy at my gym refers to sparring me as, "A fistfight in a phone booth." I get my mail inside my opponent's range. There's nothing as satisfying as having a guy hook your head point-blank and miss.

I'm constantly experimenting with staying inside as long as I can; slipping far to the outside -- like, past their elbows -- once I'm inside, and throwing short hooks and uppercuts and seeing how long I can avoid taking that punch that makes me want to get back out of range. Usually I get nailed when I start to get tired; all that dodging and weaving wears me out fast.

I was getting creamed trying to stay inside while remaining in a traditional stance. I've found that the key to staying inside longer (for me, being short-legged) is to bring my trailing leg UP into a nearly-square stance when I get inside. I make that part of my footwork when I move in. This gives me easy lateral movement once I'm in there and I can literally dodge and weave circles around him.

I throw short hooks, shovelhooks, and uppercuts with lots of torque and usually using the momentum from slipping and weaving to drive the punches. I throw very few straights when I'm in that close; the occasional overhand if he breaks free and runs for range.

I think that using your momentum from an active defense to deliver the punches helps give the illusion of speed; speed, IMO, is very much a function of perception. If he's trying to track your dodging and slipping, he may not recognize that that slip to the outside is pulling a hook that's going to come through the hole he just left when he missed you.

Also, I've found that I (and probably my opponent) lose my visual cues because of the headgear when I'm in that close, so I have to rely on my other senses, much the way that blind men develop exceptional hearing and touch. Keeping a shoulder, a glove, or even a leg against him will help you perceive where he's going; you can feel his body move and you'll have some idea of what he's going to do next.

Take a step back and you've opened the gap to jab range and you're now in a more traditional stance where you can really work the jab; a long step or quick shuffle back puts you at long attacking distance where you can catch your breath and give him a moment to contemplate the errors of his ways. Vers, I'm sure you know all this already.

Anyway. This is what I've been working on. I hope to have it really together for our next smoker in June.

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jesse james leija is was working with me today,with the range issue.It's working out pretty good.
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No the opposite, im the fighter that 9 times out 10 is the one who has opponents falling into range for me.

Its just the style of fight that you choose to do on someone. My style is to make them miss and counter straight after... so i'm always slightly in range (to draw the shot), then completely out of range, then back in my own range between attacks to hit them.

Yeah I co-sign
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jesse james leija is was working with me today,with the range issue.It's working out pretty good.
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