All About The Jab

[kayjay]

Originally Posted by j

i think i know what you are referring to. is it the way he somewhat chops down onto an opponents gaurd? that is, physically, the employment of the vertical circle.

a nice power jab is one of my fighting style's main specialties. that's one of the differences between the boxing i do and standard american boxing.

BTW, wladimir OWNS the jab. that thing is like a machine gun, and sometimes even like a cannon. if wladimir polished his micromechanics, he would likely KO opponents with his jab alone.

the verticle circle is more micromechanics.
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so, how do some of your coaches view the jab or mechanics of? i mean, besides the fact that it is the most important fundamental offensive technique.

j can you explain a bit better what you mean by 'vertical circle'. Thanks I like this division. It is more strategies for using the jab than it is techniques of throwing the jab. You could make a thread for each.

[BrooklynBomber]

Originally Posted by j

i think i know what you are referring to. is it the way he somewhat chops down onto an opponents gaurd? that is, physically, the employment of the vertical circle.

a nice power jab is one of my fighting style's main specialties. that's one of the differences between the boxing i do and standard american boxing.

BTW, wladimir OWNS the jab. that thing is like a machine gun, and sometimes even like a cannon. if wladimir polished his micromechanics, he would likely KO opponents with his jab alone.

the verticle circle is more micromechanics.
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so, how do some of your coaches view the jab or mechanics of? i mean, besides the fact that it is the most important fundamental offensive technique.

thats exactly what I am talking about. First time I saw it, I was like WTF? is he pawing that ****, cause I was never taught to throw it like that. But then I saw just how effective it is for him and realised that it just his own thing.
Also, I was taught on how to charge my punches, when if I throw a charged jab, I would bend in my cross shoulder a little and then throw tre jab. Same went for cross, but vice versa.

[j]

j can you explain a bit better what you mean by 'vertical circle'. Thanks I like this division. It is more strategies for using the jab than it is techniques of throwing the jab. You could make a thread for each.

the verticle circle is a basic concept in chinese boxing. western boxing is very big on using the horizontal circle(swivel of the hips) to increase power. however, it does seem to neglect the verticle circle except for the uppercut.

right now i am not in the right frame of mind to be able to explain it clearly, however, if you really want to explore it, PM me and i will try to direct you to some sources that may help clarify.

[j]

thats exactly what I am talking about. First time I saw it, I was like WTF? is he pawing that ****, cause I was never taught to throw it like that. But then I saw just how effective it is for him and realised that it just his own thing.
Also, I was taught on how to charge my punches, when if I throw a charged jab, I would bend in my cross shoulder a little and then throw tre jab. Same went for cross, but vice versa.

i know what you mean. i was like damn, did he just chop dude's arm off?

btw kayjay, that chopping motion, is really a product of what is called the verticle circle. that chopping motion, combined with carefully trained micromovement can be extremely powerfull. the difference between a jab and a chop is physically obvious. but what the rest of the body doing is extremely important in understanding how to generate more power off of the jab.

[SquareCircle]

i used to punch out until muscular fatigue on my left arm with 2 sets of ankle weights on my left arm, maintaining proper jab technique, turning it over etc. steppin into it with those weights on your arm will make those punching muscles real sore. many here will disagree with me and tell me this training method is the way to **** your shoulder up, but i have the hardest jab of anyone ive ever boxed with, so i disagree.

[eazy_mas]

what about Hashim Rahman jab?

[Darkstar]

Originally Posted by eazy_mas

what about Hashim Rahman jab?

Best example of a "power" jab. A prime Larry Holmes.

[Darkstranger]

Originally Posted by SquareCircle

i used to punch out until muscular fatigue on my left arm with 2 sets of ankle weights on my left arm, maintaining proper jab technique, turning it over etc. steppin into it with those weights on your arm will make those punching muscles real sore. many here will disagree with me and tell me this training method is the way to **** your shoulder up, but i have the hardest jab of anyone ive ever boxed with, so i disagree.

Wouldn't that only improve stamina, and help you to keep your left hand up for longer periods of time. I couldn't imagine how that technique would actually give you any extra power, but if it works for you then that's all good. That excercise is probably strengthening your rotatary cuff muscles, the collection of muscles and tendons that hold your shoulder together.

Explosive kettlebell movements and the clean & jerk movements are very good for increasing power in all sports, and contrary to popular belief they won't bulk you up.

p.s. What was your finger injury?

[SquareCircle]

add the lazy jab. well, the lazy jab is more of a combination than a punch but there's a few different types of lazy jabs.

first one is a rangefinder then a power jab

three quick rangefinders is the basic lazy jab, very effective tool

[SquareCircle]

Originally Posted by Darkstranger

p.s. What was your finger injury?

You live, and you learn. I was so stupid for doing this but in Vancouver my roommate got a knife pulled on him right in front of me. I was carrying a bag of groceries, as my friend gave the guy his wallet I grabbed the hand he was wielding the knife with. At first, I thought I had the situation under control but he planted his feet and pulled back as hard as he could and I lost grip, sliced my little finger on my right hand in the process. He did that and I gasped and looked at my hand as the ****er took off with my friend's wallet.

When someone pulls a knife on you, don't try to be a hero. Just give em the ****in' money. I mean, unless you're stupid enough to have a couple thousand on you or something.