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Old 01-23-2007, 10:32 AM
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First, some all-time and almost greats:

Felix Savon (358-17)
Teofilo Stevenson (302-20)
Laszlo Papp (301-12-6)
Terry Norris (291-4)
Virgil Hill (250-11)
Mike McCallum (240-10)
Kennedy McKinney (214-13)
Pernell Whitaker (201-14)
John Mugabi (195-5)
Vitali Klitschko (195-15)
Leon Spinks (181-9)
Sugar Ray Leonard (165-5)
Danny Romero (127-5)
Wilfredo Benitez (123-6)
Harry Arroyo (120-15)
Nino Benvenuti (119-1)
Jose Napoles (113-1)
Mark Breland (110-1)
Kid Chocolate (100-0)
Muhammad Ali (100-5)
Vinny Pazienza (100-12)
Meldrick Taylor (99-4)
Michael Carbajal (94-9)
Michael Spinks (93-7)
Tony Zale (87-8)
Sugar Ray Robinson (85-0)
Carlos Monzon (79-7)
Hector Camacho (75-4)
Maurice Blocker (73-3)
Roger Mayweather (64-4)
Simon Brown (63-2)
Willie Pep (62-3)
Yoko Gushiken (62-3)
Naseem Hamed (62-5)
Ingemar Johansson (61-10)
Alexis Arguello (58-2)
Wilfredo Gomez (58-2-1)
Henry Armstrong (58-4)
Marvin Hagler (55-1)
Felix Trinidad (51-6)
Joe Louis (50-4)
Azumah Nelson (50-2)
Michael Moorer (48-16)
Ray Mancini (43-7)
Ezzard Charles (42-0)
Nigel Benn (41-1)
Floyd Patterson (40-4)
Ricardo Lopez (37-1)
Benny Lynch (35-2)
Carlos Zarate (33-0)
Iran Barkley (30-4)
Edwin Rosario (30-2)
Vito Antuofermo (29-1)
Bobby Czyz (24-2)
Chiquita Gonzalez (23-0)
Jesse James Leija (23-5)
Chris Eubank (19-7)
Rocky Marciano (9-4)

Some current champions and contenders:

Oscar De La Hoya (223-5)
Jeff Lacy (209-12)
Evander Holyfield (160-14)
Wladimir Klitschko (134-6)
Zab Judah (110-5)
Erik Morales (108-6)
Diego Corrales (105-12)
Acelino Freitas (74-2)
Rosendo Alavarez (66-12)
Kassim Ouma (60-3)
Marco Antonio Barrera (56-4)
Ike Quartey (50-4)
Vivian Harris (45-5)
Juan Manuel Marquez (44-2)
Manuel Medina (40-6)
Jorge Arce (37-3)
Montell Griffin (36-5)
Antonio Margarito (21-3)
James Toney (20-2)
Jean-Marc Mormeck (13-2)
Nikolai Valuev (12-3)

The reverse can also be true for relatively modest amateur boxers. Future greats Julio Cesar Chavez (14-1), Roberto Duran (13-3), Buddy McGirt (54-9), James Toney (20-2), and Larry Holmes (19-3) are examples of men who perfected their craft in the pro rings. Ironically, they did so on the undercards of Olympic medalists they would later eclipse. While Chris Eubank (19-7), being a later starter to boxing while living in the States, perfected his craft in the gym over here before going back to Europe and becoming one of the most successful European boxers of all-time.
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:33 AM
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Yeah Wlad's amateur record was crazy, but Oscar's was ridiculous.
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:37 AM
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Benn lost less than Ali,

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Old 01-23-2007, 10:41 AM
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Benn lost less than Ali,

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He also fought half as many amateur fights and against British street folk.
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:44 AM
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Benn only lost 2.5%, Ali nearly 5%.

I know who the better boxer is and what country he comes from
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:50 AM
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Benn only lost 2.5%, Ali nearly 5%.

I know who the better boxer is and what country he comes from
Pleeeease......How dare you compare Benn to the Greatest. Wanker!
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Old 01-23-2007, 10:56 AM
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Please be advised...AGAIN... I would say all or 99 pct. of these records are NOT ACCURATE.... I KNOW THIS FOR FACT.. number one, amateur boxing records are very rarely kept accurately and there is no ruling body that keeps stats... even with American amateurs... the records are not kept.. you can't go to the National office and get the records and there is no fightfax for them, either... the national office only keeps track of national tournaments, that's it..... and take Benitez for example... he turned pro at 14... he didn't have 130 or so amateur fights at that time, OK??....... Most of the amateur recoerds you see reported are LITERALLY some reporter asking a guy and the fighter making a guess..I know a kid who I know for a FACT had at least THIRTY losses in his amateur career over a ten year span... he was reported to the crowd (in the program), though, at a tournament as having a record of something like 145-4.....because they ASKED HIM and he just made a number up. That happens all the time, believe me.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:09 AM
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The Benitez record made me suspicious also. Sugar Ray Robinson also was defeated as an amateur. What was your Amateur record Scully? Best guess.
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Benn only lost 2.5%, Ali nearly 5%.

I know who the better boxer is and what country he comes from
lol he's gotta be an alt!

No one would say Nigel Benn was better than Ali if they even had a fleeting knowledge of boxing.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:53 AM
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Please be advised...AGAIN... I would say all or 99 pct. of these records are NOT ACCURATE.... I KNOW THIS FOR FACT.. number one, amateur boxing records are very rarely kept accurately and there is no ruling body that keeps stats... even with American amateurs... the records are not kept.. you can't go to the National office and get the records and there is no fightfax for them, either... the national office only keeps track of national tournaments, that's it..... and take Benitez for example... he turned pro at 14... he didn't have 130 or so amateur fights at that time, OK??....... Most of the amateur recoerds you see reported are LITERALLY some reporter asking a guy and the fighter making a guess..I know a kid who I know for a FACT had at least THIRTY losses in his amateur career over a ten year span... he was reported to the crowd (in the program), though, at a tournament as having a record of something like 145-4.....because they ASKED HIM and he just made a number up. That happens all the time, believe me.
How bout Duran and Chavez? They had very few amatuer fights it says.
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