Prime James Toney in today's MW SMW? dose he beat martinez ward?

[turbotime]

LOL wow, read this after I posted. Glad someone else realizes toneys faults and not just me.

Toney is a great fighter but he is a bit of a myth IMO just because he moved up and tangled with heavyweights means nothing at the lower weights where fighters are more skilled.

[ghost deini]

james toney was an incredible fighter he would beat anyone at middle or super middle aside from ward imo

[Atreyu Khalil]

Bute would outbox Toney.

[Atreyu Khalil]

james toney was an incredible fighter he would beat anyone at middle or super middle aside from ward imo

Toney is a great inside fighter & counterpuncher, he would beat Ward IMO. Ward doesnt have the KO power to keep Toney honest. Toney was a sharp shooter

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Bute would outbox Toney.

You've never seen Toney fight. At least not in the 90s.

[Atreyu Khalil]

I'm basing this on Bute's boxing ability from the outside, Toney being a midget and Bute being huge.

Bute is 2 and half inches taller than Toney.....but Toney is a midget? Bute would get beat up by Toney....

[intoccabile]

Toney would destroy Martinez....

Who has Sergio beat?

and he would beat Ward as well...that fight would be much closer because Ward is a much better al around boxer than Martinez

Griffin spun toney not once, but twice.. (he was a 14-0 prospect the first time too) and he has TERRIBLE legs. Toneys laziness and inability to pivot or pick up the pace against a lateral movement opponent, even in the inside, will always make him vulnerable to the style Martinez brings.

I think you guys have forgotten how Toney fought.

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Toney is a great fighter but he is a bit of a myth IMO just because he moved up and tangled with heavyweights means nothing at the lower weights where fighters are more skilled.

People consider Toney good because he fought Heavyweights. I don't know anyone when they break down Toney, bring up his heavyweight run as a major bright spot.

[Atreyu Khalil]

Griffin spun toney not once, but twice.. (he was a 14-0 prospect the first time too) and he has TERRIBLE legs. Toneys laziness and inability to pivot or pick up the pace against a lateral movement opponent, even in the inside, will always make him vulnerable to the style Martinez brings.

I think you guys have forgotten how Toney fought.

Montel Griffin is a better fighter than Lucian Bute without a doubt....who has Bute fought?

[turbotime]

Griffin spun toney not once, but twice.. (he was a 14-0 prospect the first time too) and he has TERRIBLE legs. Toneys laziness and inability to pivot or pick up the pace against a lateral movement opponent, even in the inside, will always make him vulnerable to the style Martinez brings.

I think you guys have forgotten how Toney fought.

This, all day.