Among the other great middleweights in the history of the games based upon tonight's win?
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Originally posted by joseTop 4 all time
Greb
Hagler
Monzon
Hopkins
he was top 4 before tonight anyway
you cant argue with winning. The guy has ruled the division for 10 years and has made 19 defenses
You cannot really say hopkins has fought any strong opposition, he has fought in a very weak division 19 defences against medicocre opponents does not make him great. tito and de ha hoya were about the best, and they were blown up fighters from lower weight classes.
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You think Greb is better than Hagler?
You cannot really say hopkins has fought any strong opposition, he has fought in a very weak division 19 defences against medicocre opponents does not make him great. tito and de ha hoya were about the best, and they were blown up fighters from lower weight classes.
I didn't rank them in any real order I just put there names out there.
If I had to I'd probably go
1. Hagler
2. Greb
3. Hopkins
4. Monzon
He fought the best available to him and thats all you can ask.You can say the same thing for Hagler his best win came over Tommy Hearns a welterweight.
What about Sugar Ray Robinson?
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Originally posted by Epie2Dominating a fighter who is not a natural middleweight does not really make Hopkins greater than the great middleweight champions of past decades.
Here's how i personally see it:
1. Harry Greb
2. Sugar Ray Robinson
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Marvin Hagler
5. Stanley Ketchel
6. Jake LaMotta
...are ahead of Hopkins. It could be debated that he's on par with Cerdan, Zale, and Walker.
I mainly put an emphasis on level of opposition. Hopkins' has been mediocre with the exception of DLH and Trinidad.
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