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Just rewatched Floyd vs Guerrero, Floyd is declining and will lose before he retires
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Originally posted by Saul_Good View Post4 rounds? That's awfully generous.
I think I know what you mean though. Floyd's fight with Corrales showed us how he likes to use those four corners to avoid heavy hitters. Cotto had success by cutting Floyd off and get his work in against the ropes since Floyd couldn't escape.
It looked like Floyd was trying to use those same movements in the Guerrero fight, and you could make the argument that his lateral skills are on the decline, but a loss doesn't seem too likely on the horizon in my opinion. Not simply because of that.
Now maybe if him and Matthysse......
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Of Course he is Declining he is almost 40! You did not discover anything new...how ever a declining Mayweather is still Head And Shoulder Above the current fighters today that he still can find a way to win against these Current Era of Fighters.
It is a style that can defeat Mayweather but all the fighters you casual fans want to see him fight they don't have the style to defeat even a OLD Mayweather
You don't defeated a Chess Master with Good Checker Players, your going to need another good Chess Master and lucky for Mayweather all of the other fellow Chess Masters (Like A Rigondeaux! Andre Ward!) are far from his Division
Oscar was the last to be effect against Mayweather but people forget that Oscar was a Chess Player, Oscar had damn good Boxing Skills, he naturally had a Jab, Oscar has good footwork and his Defense was very underrated...but those wasn't just things he just learned for the Mayweather fight those are things he did well naturally during his career!Last edited by sicko; 09-09-2013, 11:54 PM.
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Originally posted by KeepItObjective View PostEveryone seemed to worship Mayweather after this performance but I have to say I'm not wholly convinced. Guerrero of course was simply overmatched in speed, reflexes, power etc, he had only 2 previous fights at 147 and was the naturally smaller guy.
In the first 2 rounds Floyd definitely showed a lot of ring rust, Guerrero tried to let Floyd press the action instead of applying tons of pressure like many other Floyd opponents, and he was successful in landing some good counter body shots.
After that Floyd shook off the rust and overmatched him with his superior speed and reflexes but it's hard to describe what I saw but something was missing with Floyd, his punches were sharp but he seems to get trapped a lot more than usual and I saw some of the issues he had with Cotto in this fight. I can't quite pin down what it is but I see decline, It's the body movement I think, the lateral movement just doesn't seem to be as crispy .
Guerrero did some good work on the inside when he could and I think his body shots were impressive, he didn't jab enough and should have basically focused on the counter shots to the body throughout the fight and jabbing upstairs. I actually give more credit to Guerrero after re watching the fight and I think he did really well for his level of ability and for the attributes he possesses, I gave him 4 rounds.
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Originally posted by _original_ View PostGuerrero is vastly underrated on here.
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Originally posted by sicko View PostOf Course he is Declining he is almost 40! You did not discover anything new...how ever a declining Mayweather is still Head And Shoulder Above the current fighters today that he still can find a way to win against these Current Era of Fighters.
It is a style that can defeat Mayweather but all the fighters you casual fans want to see him fight they don't have the style to defeat even a OLD Mayweather
You don't defeated a Chess Master with Good Checker Players, your going to need another good Chess Master and lucky for Mayweather all of the other fellow Chess Masters (Like A Rigondeaux! Andre Ward!) are far from his Division
Oscar was the last to be effect against Mayweather but people forget that Oscar was a Chess Player, Oscar had damn good Boxing Skills, he naturally had a Jab, those wasn't just things he just learned for the Mayweather fight
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