Chavez jr: I'm getting 20% of the PPV split. Golovkin gets flat fee?

[paulf]

The conclusion is that Chavez Jr's PPV did half a million buys while Golovkin's did around 100-150k.

There's no comparison. GGG is the champ and Jr is a fat lazy bum, but the bum is the real draw and has a lot more pull in negotiating. Period.

[Bjl12]

GGG isn't even worth the $15million they're offering him.

Which makes you think... are they really offering that to him? or is it lies as usual?

At one point in your life _Maxi you were definitely a ****ing pac****. This logic...

Tom Loeffler - GGG's promoter - has already confirmed the offer from GBP/Canelo. He also made it public there was no PPV upside. So the offer is the offer.

Jackasses like you draw these strange/random conclusions b/c you're in denial/PTSD from Pac KTFO6 and UD12.

Please go away

[_Maxi]

That 20% will be way less than $15 mil. A 1 mil PPV at $70 only generates around $35 mil for the event promoters.

The math is explained here http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=733841

[_Maxi]

Tom Loeffler - GGG's promoter - has already confirmed the offer from GBP/Canelo. He also made it public there was no PPV upside. So the offer is the offer.

You need to be smart to understand things. Seems that you are not. Facts are Canelo vacated and moved down to 154 and said that was his division. Then says he's moving up to 160, then tells Golovkin to wait until september 2017. Then somehow it's Golovkin the one delaying the fight. One would think the brain is to be used.

[Robbie Barrett]

The math is explained here http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=733841

No it's explained here:

I keep seeing posters claiming fights will make x amount of money so x fighter deserves x amount of money and they don't really understand what they're talking about so here's an article that explains it.

http://www.*************.com/columns...iew-deal-work/

Business of Boxing: How Does the Pay-Per-View Deal Work?

by Charles Jay

Where does the money go when a fan plunks down $49.95 to see a pay-per-view fight on television? Does it go directly to the fighters? Does it go into the hands of promoters? What role do the networks play? Maybe this piece will, in a basic sort of way, shine some light on it for you.

As the apparatus of pay-per-view has matured, it has evolved into a process that customarily works like this: the promoter will make a fight between two combatants, along with an undercard to support it. He approaches the pay-per-view distributor, like HBO PPV or Showtime PPV (or the new entrant, Epix) with that fight, and the distributor makes the decision as to whether to carry it or not. If the fight gets the green light, the distributor goes to work clearing the fight with the MSO’s (multiple system operators) who control virtually the entire cable universe. These include companies like Time Warner, Cablevision, Comcast. Cox and Charter.

The cable systems are in on the deal; that’s their price tag for carrying a certain amount of weight on the local and regional level. They are going to run commercials for the event, and sometimes the promotional materials can be provided by the promoter, although often the cable people will put together their own, because they may have certain special promotions they will do in association with the event.

The standard breakdown as far as money is concerned is a 10% fee off the top for the distributor, with 45% each for the cable system and the promoter. So when you see a price tag on a fight, you know that the promoter will get about 45% of that.

Let’s say a fight is priced at $49.95, which for the sake of simplicity we are going to round up to $50. If it’s HBO PPV that is being used, HBO is not a party that is at risk as far as the fight itself is concerned but will take the 10% fee off the top ($5). The promoter and the cable companies both wind up with $22.50 per “sub” (or subscriber).

If a fight sells a million pay-per-view subscribers, HBO’s pay-per-view arm will get $5 million and the promoters will pocket $22,500,000. If that level of revenue, along with the other revenue streams (live gate or casino site fee, merchandising, international rights, etc.) did not meet what the promoter guaranteed the fighters, well, let’s just say that would be an unfortunate occurrence.

[M Bison]

Chavez jr is getting 20% of the PPV split. Yet Golovkin is offered a flat fee. Draw your conclusions.

Its Oscar Dela Hoya enabling the duck, Chavez Jr has no title he is renowned for having bad work ethic, he is known for being lazy, smoking weed and he hasn't held a world title in many years and this fight is being held at yet another catchweight...

Need I say anymore?

[M Bison]

The conclusion is that Chavez Jr's PPV did half a million buys while Golovkin's did around 100-150k.

There's no comparison. GGG is the champ and Jr is a fat lazy bum, but the bum is the real draw and has a lot more pull in negotiating. Period.

Actually GGG last PPV did 650k so try and keep up boy, I mean you're talking about his very first PPV event you have absolutely no room for your failed argument by all means try again.

[-PBP-]

Oh no? how can you have the biggest fight in boxing and pretend it's because of ONE of the fighters? are you kidding me?

Then Canelo can fight another Liam smith and make 1 million PPVs? no, it doesn't happen, he makes 250k-300k against those. So it's not "because of Canelo". There's a reason why GGG-Canelo was so big and GGG had a lot to do with it.

2+2=4... lately you've shown me you have more hate than rationality inside your head.

Don't play stupid Maxi. You look at the historic drawing power of each of the fighters as a stand alone and negotiate from there. When you compare the PPV numbers for Chavez/Martinez and GGG/Lemieux, it's no question who the bigger revenue generator is.

[Bjl12]

You need to be smart to understand things. Seems that you are not. Facts are Canelo vacated and moved down to 154 and said that was his division. Then says he's moving up to 160, then tells Golovkin to wait until september 2017. Then somehow it's Golovkin the one delaying the fight. One would think the brain is to be used.

All of this is true IF you ignore that Canelo/GBP have sent a contract to GGG. The Golovkin team are - on record - rejecting the terms of the contract.

We do not know if they sent a counter-offer. Instead we just know the terms "weren't good enough" for GGG. Even though it would clearly be a career-high payday for 35 year old Khazak.

Put down your Kool Aid and open your eyes

[koolkc107]

The math is explained here http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=733841

The math is pretty simple and doesn't need a complicated explanation. Promoters wind up with 45% of a PPV gross plus whatever other revenue streams they can muster.

Upside can be a gross percentage, a percentage after expenses and guarantees are paid, or a percentage of revenues after a certain amount of buys are surpassed.