The Final Verdict: Did Pac Have a Full Thickness Rotator Cuff Tear?

[Contra]

Lol. "Pac's surgeon allowed him to do salt water..."

Yeah... and the theory is that the surgeon believes salt water friction on healed wounds helps a boxer like Pac fool the world because that in itself makes perfect sense...

Spoon23 is an ace troll. Precise Presenter!

He is one dedicated motherfúcker.

You think he actually works during the day, or just spends all of his time bashing Floyd on the internet and jerking off to his life-size Pacquiao poster?

[ADP02]

Oh look after a surgery there is an aquatic therapy pool for rehab!

http://centerforphysicalexcellence.c...ountain-youth/


The aquatic therapy pool at The Center for Physical Excellence is the first of its kind in the quad-city area. The multi-depth setting allows for a variety of weight bearing options and exercise choices. Physical therapy in an aquatic setting offers early painfree movement and faster healing. It is offered in conjunction with land based therapy or by itself as primary therapy. Individuals can access the pool with graduated stairs and hand rails.

Most musculoskeletal injuries can be helped with aquatic therapy. Research has shown aquatic therapy can help with the following conditions: arthritis, fibromyalgia, deconditioning, chronic and severe pain, balance and walking problems, injuries to the shoulder, neck, low back, hip knee, ankle and foot, total knee/hip replacement, various pre and post-surgical conditions (spinal fusions, laminectomy, ACL/Meniscus tears and repairs; other conditions that limit the body’s ability to bear weight).

“The pool therapy eased the pain because of the water’s buoyancy and reduction of stress on my joints. The expertise of the physical therapists guided me through the warm water exercises several times a week and soon my pain was significantly reduced,” reported Vicky Young, PhD.

– Laura Markey, PT, DPT, FAAOMPT

Nice!

Man, even Teddy Atlas is OK with it but not Travestyny.

[Lester Tutor]

He is one dedicated motherfúcker.

You think he actually works during the day, or just spends all of his time bashing Floyd on the internet and jerking off to his life-size Pacquiao poster?

actually I only spot this kat on bumped Pac related threads and the same topics. never really focused on what the dude says against Floyd, that's not important, but moreso the justifications that Pac can do no wrong doing. it's trolling

[ADP02]

Why don't you refute the 11 medical documents I just listed to you??? Is that big enough evidence for you??? Lol

You been sidestepping these links for awhile man. ONE MORE TIME:

"Swimming plays no role in the rehabilitation program for people with rotator cuff injuries and, second, swimmers are at risk of getting rotator cuff injuries because the shoulders play such an important role in swimming strokes."
http://www.livestrong.com/article/39...-rotator-cuff/


"Rehabilitation guidelines for repairing the rotator cuff, clearly rule out swimming, even at 14 weeks after surgery."
http://www.livestrong.com/article/39...-rotator-cuff/

With the consent of their surgeon, a patient may return to activities such as swimming between 4 and 6 months following the procedure.
http://www.orthop.washington.edu/?q=...tor-cuff-tears

Type 1 Rotator Cuff Repair:
No Swimming for up to 15 weeks after surgery.

Type 2 Rotator Cuff Repair:
No swimming up to 20 weeks after surgery.
http://www.uwhealth.org/files/uwheal...RTC_Repair.pdf

Return to swimming 6-8 months after surgery.
http://www.massgeneral.org/ortho-spo...20protocol.pdf

No swimming up to 25 weeks after surgery
http://uhealthsportsmedicine.com/doc..._Tenodesis.pdf

No swimming up to 19 weeks after surgery
http://www.taosortho.com/patientinfo...20protocol.pdf

Patients can return to swimming with a graduated program from 3-6 months post surgery
http://www.shouldersurgery.com.au/ro...ff-repair.html

No swimming for the first 4 months
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/rot...ond-the-basics

No swimming for until months 4 - 6
http://www.orthonc.com/sites/default...uff_Repair.pdf

Can resume swimming at 3 months(this is the site that you chose to mention, and it still doesn't agree with you)
http://www.sosmed.org/specialties/sh...tor-cuff-tear/

Finally, you say he only swam with his legs. THEN HOW THE HELL DID HE REHAB HIS SHOULDER IN 3 MONTHS!!!!!???? LOL.

Here is your problem. You just do not (WANT TO) understand.

You are thinking that there is only one way, one technique to get you back to normal but even Teddy Atlas who we all know has been criticizing Manny left and right said that he sees no problem with it.

Lots of exercises that you see being done conventionally can be done in the water. So to say, you can be in the water and doing the proper exercises that needs to be done. Initially, slowly in speed and range of motion but always progressing.

Weight lifting OK for Rotator cuff injuries?
Well just like swimming the answer is yes and no. If you take it to the extreme, its no but at a certain early stage you can use small weights. Its like KOBE doing weights early on. It must have been with just a few pound weights initially then he moved on to bigger weights and more range of motion.
Same with Manny!!! Initially he was not moving his rotator cuff as much but gradually progressed.

Here is an exercise used to help strengthen and stabilize the rotator cuff while swimming. You say that swimming in water is out of the question but like I said, you are not getting what they are trying to tell you!!!


What can be done on land can often be done in the water as well.


Could Manny have done this?


and this? Can't Manny then include range of motion exercises?

[Zaroku]

Pac: I NEVER WENT TO A DOCTOR. I NEVER WENT TO REHABILITATION.



AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. KEEP 'EM COMING. YOU ARE KILLING ME.

You love setting them off! It is ****ing funny!

[ADP02]

You love setting them off! It is ****ing funny!

Nope, this guy is serious. Did you not read the first few pages of this thread? He is though getting a bit embarrassed at this point .....

[Zaroku]

Pac: I NEVER WENT TO A DOCTOR. I NEVER WENT TO REHABILITATION.
KEEP 'EM COMING. YOU ARE KILLING ME.

He has a life sized PAC love doll, and PAC pajama. His world is complete!

[Zaroku]

Nope, this guy is serious. Did you not read the first few pages of this thread? He is though getting a bit embarrassed at this point .....

I did. But, this is a dead horse topic. It is. This thread has brought out all the fanatics. It is funny to me. Anyway, back to the lounge.

[ADP02]

I did. But, this is a dead horse topic. It is. This thread has brought out all the fanatics. It is funny to me. Anyway, back to the lounge.

Well, I found it a bit silly that he is arguing about the degree of an injury since we have a renowned doctor confirm that Manny had surgery for it ..... but enjoyed debunking several of his supposed FACTS/EVIDENCE.

[Spoon23]

Well, I found it a bit silly that he is arguing about the degree of an injury since we have a renowned doctor confirm that Manny had surgery for it ..... but enjoyed debunking several of his supposed FACTS/EVIDENCE.

Lol so true

His arguments are all over the place. Like all fl0mo loving flip floppers in NSB, they don't realize choosing multiple arguments debunks their other arguments. Shows how ******ed he really is lol

What a travesty, travestNY is Lmao