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Let's Be Real, Floyd Mayweather Would've Beaten Sugar Ray Robinson If They Fought
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Originally posted by poet682006 View PostThe truth is, the vast majority of the fighters being touted as "great" today won't even be remembered 10 years from now. That happens in EVERY generation. Hindsight removes the missgiven tag of greatness from the detritus that inevitably gets over-hyped simply because they're active NOW.
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Originally posted by DeepSleep View PostThe size difference between the two is too much for Floyd. At 135 I could imagine Floyd giving some of the ATG LW's some issues but not the ATG WW's.
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Originally posted by poet682006 View PostFunny, even while watching today's fights as they happen how do I know there isn't any Don King "funny business" going on? :jerk0ff9:
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Originally posted by studentofthegam View PostPacquiao and Floyd wont be forgotten in ten or even 20. Maybe Martinez or even Mosley will lose their luster after a while. There are always greats that get forgotten too. Holyfield is left off lists many many times. Morales and Barrera are great fighters that have already been written off by the new generation.
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I never predict a fight unless I have seen the fighter in action.
however, we HAVE seen who he beat, ie Tunney and Loughran. I dont know about you, but I respect Tunney and his skills. If Greb can beat him even with a size disadvantage, I think its fair to say that he would beat Carlos Baldomir....
on the other hand, I would never feel comfortable saying that Greb would beat ATGs like Hagler, Monzon, Hopkins, etc without seeing him fight.
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Originally posted by studentofthegam View PostIts true of this era as well. But we can actually see it for ourselves. Does that dawn on you as a difference. The fixes King put on werent racially mtivated to keep a whole group of people hopeless. Its motivated strictly by the fattening of his pockets. Doesnt make it right but it is a lesser crime IMO. "Or maybe I'm just an angry black dude holding on to the past that wasnt that bad".
Socially, yes there's a difference but that's for another forum.....
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Originally posted by poet682006 View PostIt wasn't Manny and Floyd I was referring to. Holyfield's being left off lists has more to do with suspected PED use than anything else: If it wasn't for the "Evan Fields" scandal no one of any repute would be leaving him off (for the record he makes mine, #7 all-time at Heavyweight). Morales and Barrera are being written off by idiots: I know of no reputable poster on Boxing Scene that writes them off.
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Originally posted by Steak View PostI never predict a fight unless I have seen the fighter in action.
however, we HAVE seen who he beat, ie Tunney and Loughran. I dont know about you, but I respect Tunney and his skills. If Greb can beat him even with a size disadvantage, I think its fair to say that he would beat Carlos Baldomir....
on the other hand, I would never feel comfortable saying that Greb would beat ATGs like Hagler, Monzon, Hopkins, etc without seeing him fight.
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