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  • #31
    Little G said he'd fight anyone at 168, Little G tried to make fights at 168, when the best at 168 calls him out he's suddenly too small.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
      That doesn't explain why a guy who walks around at 170 refuses to face a guy at 168 and says he'll only face him at 164.
      Maybe because that guy at 168 walks around at 180+?

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      • #33
        so this is another ggg vs ward nuthuggers thread?

        same sheit different day

        ggg and ward are on the same boat...they both have no serious threats in their respective divisions and the only way to find challenges is to move up.

        you can't criticize one for not moving up and give the other a pass. and when I say move up I mean fight a worthy opponent and not just some tomato can.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
          That doesn't explain why a guy who walks around at 170 refuses to face a guy at 168 and says he'll only face him at 164.
          That doesn't explain it?

          Does this:
          • 10+ pounds weight advantage
          • height advantage
          • reach advantage
          • never fought at that division before


          help any?



          Who cares, anyways? Ward isn't' coming down to 168 until after Kovalev (if he even does decide to)... and we know that isn't happening for a while since he's injured. What's your point?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by brick wall View Post
            so this is another ggg vs ward nuthuggers thread?

            same sheit different day

            ggg and ward are on the same boat...they both have no serious threats in their respective divisions and the only way to find challenges is to move up.

            you can't criticize one for not moving up and give the other a pass. and when I say move up I mean fight a worthy opponent and not just some tomato can.
            Nope this is an thread to say there's more roads to greatness than moving up in weight and also most fighters simply have to move up.

            The fools on this forum turned it into GGG this and that.

            There's many fighters in history that stayed in one division, Willie Pep, Monzon, Hagler, and many others.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by SniXSniPe View Post
              That doesn't explain it?

              Does this:
              • 10+ pounds weight advantage
              • height advantage
              • reach advantage
              • never fought at that division before


              help any?



              Who cares, anyways? Ward isn't' coming down to 168 until after Kovalev (if he even does decide to)... and we know that isn't happening for a while since he's injured. What's your point?
              No it doesn't, he was willing to fight Froch under those circumstances at 168.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by SilverMiles View Post
                What many people fail to realize is that there's a difference between moving up and growing out a division.

                De La Hoya grew out of 147 to 154 he moved up from 154 to 160.

                Manny grew out of 135 to 140. He moved up from 140 to 147.

                Mayweather grew up from 140 to 147. He moved up from 147 to 154.

                Fighters shouldn't get bonus points for growing up. And in reality most guys only move up willing one division. Even rarer is someone who moves up two division.

                While it's cool to be a multi division champion that doesn't make it better than being undisputed champion in one division with many title defenses.

                There's more than one road to greatness and it's time fans start accepting.
                Mayweather moved up to 147 from 140. Remember he didn't even stick at 140 long enough to outgrow it as he was busy chasing the DLH fight. I do agree that people confuse the 2.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                  No it doesn't, he was willing to fight Froch under those circumstances at 168.
                  As Froch would tell you himself, 80,000 at wembley.. Ward can't draw flies to sht. There's your answer as to why he'd fight Froch $$$$$ and of course less risk of losing.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Jsmooth9876 View Post
                    As Froch would tell you himself, 80,000 at wembley.. Ward can't draw flies to sht. There's your answer as to why he'd fight Froch $$$$$ and of course less risk of losing.
                    That's the biggest reason, the reason Little G fans are making excuses to avoid acknowledging. Little G is afraid of tough fights.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by LarryXXX View Post
                      Damn ya'll hang on his ****ing nutts like he is a damn monster,why are ya'll so afraid for him to fight at 168?? He literally is chasing a retired Froch to fight at 168 but ya'll do not want him to fight anyone prime there?? why?
                      Lmfao! Larry. Complaining about hanging on someone's nuts! Bro you still hang on Floyd's nuts even after he retires you ******!
                      GGG will move up when he wants to
                      Why didn't Floyd fight him at 154 where he held a belt?
                      He fought Oscar and a green Canelo why not GGG?
                      Oh because GGG is a no money fight right?
                      Well Ward brings very little to the table.
                      Why aren't you on cottos and Canelos az for not moving up 4 lbs to fight te boogey man? Larry you dumb fuk stfu

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