Victor Ortiz will emerge as the best 140 Fighter!

[boxingfan_123]

damn this thread was made today?

[Pullcounter]

let's just forget the maidana fight.

ortiz got the size and tools.

yeah, he's got size and tools, but not the most important thing: heart.

[King Tua]

yeah, he's got size and tools, but not the most important thing: heart.

1 fight.

give me a break.

plus he's a kid.

[smoothvega]

everyone makes mistakes and ortiz made a mistake by quittin but honestly the fight was his to win... he still has power and he still has a future... he will be campbell and then he will defeat khan and then everyone will be on his nuts again

[Pullcounter]

1 fight.

give me a break.

plus he's a kid.

1) that fight is gonna haunt him for the rest of his life. the only way to erase it is to fight maidana and beat him

2) no breaks for anyone

3) exactly, if he starts quitting as a kid, what do you think he's gonna do when he grows up?

[King Tua]

everyone makes mistakes and ortiz made a mistake by quittin but honestly the fight was his to win... he still has power and he still has a future... he will be campbell and then he will defeat khan and then everyone will be on his nuts again

ortiz has the tools to beat ANYONE at 140.

i'd favor him over almost everyone at 147.

maybe mosley could ko him , if he's not too past it.

mayweather might be able to outbox him.

that's about it.

i give him 50/50 to beat pacquiao tbh.

[Pullcounter]

everyone makes mistakes and ortiz made a mistake by quittin but honestly the fight was his to win... he still has power and he still has a future... he will be campbell and then he will defeat khan and then everyone will be on his nuts again

campbell is old, but if he can take ortiz's power, I wonder if ortiz will quit again.

beating khan won't redeem him. he's gotta beat maidana, even if bradley outboxes him. ortiz needs to get revenge against maidana. that's the only way to redemption.

[Pullcounter]

ortiz has the tools to beat ANYONE at 140.

i'd favor him over almost everyone at 147.

BWHAAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!

maybe mosley could ko him , if he's not too past it.

for sure mosley will make him quit

mayweather might be able to outbox him.

floyd would be his best showing since floyd will carry ortiz 12 rounds

that's about it.

pwill outworks him makes him quit.

cotto vs ortiz is another wild brawl and eventually ortiz quits

ortiz vs berto is a 12 rounder that can go either way

margo makes ortiz quit.

pac makes ortiz quit.

[King Tua]

1) that fight is gonna haunt him for the rest of his life. the only way to erase it is to fight maidana and beat him

2) no breaks for anyone

3) exactly, if he starts quitting as a kid, what do you think he's gonna do when he grows up?

1. he'll beat maidana in a rematch. his management is doing the right thing and building his confidence back up before it happens. similar to what they are doing to khan. no point in a maidana rematch yet. just like there's no point in a prescott rematch for khan yet.

2. he was 22. at 21 pacquiao had already got ktfo twice. one could argue pacquiao quit in the singsurat fight too.

3. are you the same person now as you are at 21? people change. this kind of thing changes fighters. some for the better. some for the worst. it's not smart to label a 21 yr. old kid a quitter yet because of one fight. what if he gets into 3-4 wars the next couple of years? you'd look mighty dumb.

[King Tua]

BWHAAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!


for sure mosley will make him quit


floyd would be his best showing since floyd will carry ortiz 12 rounds


pwill outworks him makes him quit.

cotto vs ortiz is another wild brawl and eventually ortiz quits

ortiz vs berto is a 12 rounder that can go either way

margo makes ortiz quit.

pac makes ortiz quit.

mosley would ko him.

mayweather would school him.

williams ain't no fucking welterweight anymore.

yeah because cotto never quits right? i would rather cotto had just quit the way ortiz did than run and not fight for the next 5-6 rounds.

margarito could beat ortiz but margarito might be well past it for all we know.