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Comments Thread For: Andre Ward-Sergey Kovalev PPV Show Barely Cracked 160K Buys
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostDeveel no way. The biggest PPV star in UFC wont even do 2 mil. If Floyd came back and fought the GGG/Canelo winner it would exceed that amount with ease.
Boxers need to learn how to sell. Kov, instead of whining, needs to become a full on Drago/Ivan Koloff level Russian heel. Then Ward can play off that as the bragging American hero. Do something that makes espn and foxsports pay attention.
If boxers sell fights like UFC guys the sport will be ok.
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Originally posted by TexasCowBoy View PostThe market has spoken and you summed it up .....one way to fix it is making 15 rd.title.fights and the judging needs to improve because two fights have been tainted this year.....choclate vs cuadras (chocolate looked like he got the crap beat out of him...his face was effd up) and kovalev vs ward (ward was on survival mode and never looked like he wanted to knockout Kovalev....ward.was.just content to go the distance and be Son Of Bias Judges)
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previous failures of Kov's and Ward's fights only set their eventual matchup for failure. No one cared about Ward and Kovalev then and they didn't care now. Gotta somehow figure out a way to steal the casuals from mma.
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Ward fans just will never get it, but most boxing fans have gotten fed up with spending money to watch the house fighter be allowed to hold and cheat all night. People want to pay their money for a true, fair boxing match, where the fighters have to exchange fists to win. Watching guys wrestle and walk each other across the ring for 30 seconds at a time while the referee does nothing is incredibly, incredibly boring.
They need to start officiating the sport properly. People don't get just how much action we are missing with the way the refs let hometown fighters do anything. The talent is there for exciting fights if the refs would just officiate the fight in ways that allow for actual action and exchanges to take place!
START REFEREEING FIGHTS FAIRLY, BY THE RULE BOOK, AND THE SPORT CAN STILL THRIVE.
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The PPV model for boxing is dead. The price point is too high, especially for guys that casual fans have barely heard of. The idea of creating a star who will do over 1 million buys regardless of the opponent is pretty much gone. Canelo v GGG might do it....but other than that? We see the numbers that Crawford v Postol and Ward v Kovalev are getting. Nobody wants to pay $70 for it.
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Originally posted by bchap05 View Post1.6 is pretty weak considering how many people are jacking off all over Mcgregor. I constantly hear about or see him. Would have expected well over 2 million for how "huge" of a star he is
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Originally posted by New England View Postmain events jsut doesn't have the budget. kathy duva is on record saying that she's budgeted 5000 grand for marketing for kovalev's fights in the past.
RN is mostly to blame for letting their guy rake them over the coals . he did it for tuneups as well. they're looking to make an investment in andre ward, and they thnink they have the msucle to turn him into the next PPV star [the next floyd mayweather.]
floyd mayweather was a perfect storm of marketing. he played a villain role extremely well. in his prime it was tough to put a glove on him. ward's just an *******, he's not villain. you can put a glove on him, he'll just hold your other glove so you can't do damage, and if he gets hit he'll weather a storm and find another way to beat you.
floyd would just outclass peope with his boxing, and it was pleasing on the eyes. a casual fan could see the big swing and misses that floyd would elicit from his opponents, or the picture perfect counters. ward does things on the inside and with turning and holding that make him a top shelf operator, but it's not nearly the eye pleasing style that floyd had.
people elect big fighters. you've got to have "it" to sell to casual fans. and casual fans decide what "it" is!
floyd was a villain. people hated him and they couldnt' do a damn thing about it. he made people jealous. manny was an underdog. here's this tiny little asian guy with a knockout punch beating up welterweights. people were drawn to the novelty. oscar was just bloody good looking and had a left hook for the history book. ali divided an entire country, and was a paragon of the racial and SES clash of the civil rights era and the decade or so that followed it. mike tyson acted like the guy in a back alley that you wish you never saw! and you had his style, and his fall from grace, to bolster that idea.
true, crossover, bonafide stars are elected. they are not produced. ward's not going to crossover and become a star unless he can do something in the ring to make him a more palatable commodity to the casual fan.
Good points..
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these numbers are horrendous man. every successful PPV must draw in the casuals. i guess they weren't interested in the real life drago/creed matchup. .gotta go back to the drawing board. all PPVs afrer floyd/pac have underperformed..that fight was the death blow to the PPV platform, casuals were disgusted at the event itself and the aftermath of excuses, a $400,000,000 dud..the aftershocks are still being felt. .the last hope is ggg vs canelo, a knockout artist vs a fan friendly marketable mexican star, if that sht bombs then it's time to scrap PPV and just keep all fights on regular t.v.
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