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[The Ox]

Borini didn't tear anything up.

He had a decent season with a good team, scoring 1 every 3 games. Very similar to his 1 in 2 record at Swansea and his 1 in 4 record at Sunderland.

Stop clutching at straws, Pogba is worth £20m max

[F l i c k e r]

Let's be honest:

Sadio Mane... He's good. Decently technical, pacey, eye for goal. Realistically, he's Andre Schurrle at best. Which is a poor man's Reus. So as a second striker or outside forward/ inverted winger. He'll be solid for Pool. Nothing special, B level at best player with tendency to go super saiyan every 7 games or so.

Paul Pogba... Over priced. Worth 112 million pounds? No. When you pay that much for a player (Ronaldo, Bale etc) it's because it directly translates to goals. Pogba isn't that..
He's really worth no more than Gundogan in reality. He's not going to win you a title on 50+ goals in a season (Ronaldo) or be such an X factor that he most directly wins you the CL (Bale).
United would just be paying for his age at this point. But I would say adding him makes them favorites for the PL.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Let's be honest:

Sadio Mane... He's good. Decently technical, pacey, eye for goal. Realistically, he's Andre Schurrle at best. Which is a poor man's Reus. So as a second striker or outside forward/ inverted winger. He'll be solid for Pool. Nothing special, B level at best player with tendency to go super saiyan every 7 games or so.

Paul Pogba... Over priced. Worth 112 million pounds? No. When you pay that much for a player (Ronaldo, Bale etc) it's because it directly translates to goals. Pogba isn't that..
He's really worth no more than Gundogan in reality. He's not going to win you a title on 50+ goals in a season (Ronaldo) or be such an X factor that he most directly wins you the CL (Bale).
United would just be paying for his age at this point. But I would say adding him makes them favorites for the PL.

Players like Zidane wouldn't score 50 per season (or even 25) but he'd be worth £80million+, easily.

In goal scoring terms, there are a handful (at most) who can score 50 in a top league. This idea that only goal scorers can be worth the top level money is ludicrous.

Prime versions of Iniesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Ronaldinho, Davids, Totti, Nedved...None are going to score 50 goals, but they are all every bit as valuable.

Oh, and Pogba is far better than Ilkay Gundogan

[The Ox]

Players like Zidane wouldn't score 50 per season (or even 25) but he'd be worth £80million+, easily.

In goal scoring terms, there are a handful (at most) who can score 50 in a top league. This idea that only goal scorers can be worth the top level money is ludicrous.

Prime versions of Iniesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Ronaldinho, Davids, Totti, Nedved...None are going to score 50 goals, but they are all every bit as valuable.

Oh, and Pogba is far better than Ilkay Gundogan

No he isnt

[Adamjr91]

Pogba is the daddy. Why would anyone question that?

I saw him for 10mins in his first stint at Utd and thought **** me, this lad isn't from Earth.

[Sparked_26]

Southend away tomorrow in a "friendly".

Anyone got any spare MMA gloves and gumshields?

On English shores now, mate.

You'll be good to go with 14 pints under your belt and a can-do attitude.

[Sparked_26]

Instantly.

Pogba has the ability to play anywhere, but he is built for the Premier League. He will settle in instantly and the mix of technical ability, vision and physical dominance will stand out; imagine the power of Yaya Toure with the ability of Iniesta...that's Pogba.

Preferably he'll play on the left side of the midfield with freedom to roam (when attacking), but Mourinho has adopted a 4-2-3-1 since Inter with speed on the wings, so that doesn't fit.

Mkhitaryan will be his attacking mid and Zlatan will be the striker 100%, the rest is guess work. I think Mourinho will be the manager to phase out Rooney, and sell Mata once again

That is still not a scary looking United team for me.

No real pace.

[Sparked_26]

IF he comes to United how quickly do you see him getting to grips with English football (he barely featured before) and what formation do you think Mourhino will play to get the best out of him and ibra

I wonder does Rooney even fit in?

Ibra.. Martial.. Mikataren (sp?) Pogba..Mata..Depay.. Rooney

How do you fit them all in? Should have sold Rooney 2-3 years ago to Chelsea imo.. he did all right outside the Iceland game in Euros but was **** 75% of the season

At the time everyone said that.

That transfer would have finished us as a competitive force. Genuinely. Especially in tandem with Torres.

Chelsea just aint that rich we can't cut and run with crap players like they used to. United messed up. Could have taken out a big rival. They made it worse by giving that Potato 300k a week, lol.

[gmc_rfc_06]

That is still not a scary looking United team for me.

No real pace.

Depends on how the winger situation plays out really. Martial and Rashford have pace to burn (overall quality is hard to judge), Mkhitaryan has good pace for an attacking mid, Luke Shaw will get forward at pace.

It's difficult to judge that team given Van Gaal was in charge of them and his tactics stifle creativity and attacking play. That is the same guy that forced Rivaldo and Riquelme out of Barcelona.

If Pogba goes through, Utd certainly have the team to win that league.

[F l i c k e r]

Players like Zidane wouldn't score 50 per season (or even 25) but he'd be worth £80million+, easily.

In goal scoring terms, there are a handful (at most) who can score 50 in a top league. This idea that only goal scorers can be worth the top level money is ludicrous.

Prime versions of Iniesta, Maldini, Pirlo, Ronaldinho, Davids, Totti, Nedved...None are going to score 50 goals, but they are all every bit as valuable.

Oh, and Pogba is far better than Ilkay Gundogan

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Pogba is a world class midfielder but does he really make a great team, the best in Europe? Or does he just slightly make them better than before?

Juve before Pogba?
Midfield of Pirlo, Marchisio, and Vidal... Result?
Italian double and undefeated season.
With Pogba?
Same result but with more losses.

Did he really make them any better?.