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Benard Hopkins is the greatest fighter of this Generation not Pacquiao!

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  • #81
    Pacquiao is not on B-hop's level...which title has Pac held for over 10 years? Which belt has Pac successfully defended 20 times? NONE!
    B-hop fights REAL opposition, not shot to shit fighters coming off losses in a division they dont even belong in...

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    • #82
      Originally posted by -Huey- View Post
      Pacquiao is not on B-hop's level...which title has Pac held for over 10 years? Which belt has Pac successfully defended 20 times? NONE!
      B-hop fights REAL opposition, not shot to shit fighters coming off losses in a division they dont even belong in...
      And Pavlik and Winky belonged at LHW? What about Oscar at MW? Sorry but alot of those defenses by Bhop were pure ass such as defending his titles against Mercado Orneleas and fighting Robert Allen three times. Bhop is nice but stop reaching and quit calling Manny out for things Hopkins is notorious for doing as if fighting Roy isn't the same as fighting Shane.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by -Huey- View Post
        Pacquiao is not on B-hop's level...which title has Pac held for over 10 years? Which belt has Pac successfully defended 20 times? NONE!
        B-hop fights REAL opposition, not shot to shit fighters coming off losses in a division they dont even belong in...
        Hahahahaha

        JMM, Barrera and Morales.....are fighters with the skill to surpass/on par with ANY wins on Hopkins list....further more Roy Jones a loss on Bhops record is probably the best fighter on there

        People can try to discredit pac all they want....

        People are talkin about Pavlik and all these other fighters who were favourite to beat bhop - And he beats them...they dont look great but the credit is amazing to bhop

        Pac was the complete underdog against DLH (even tho DLH was absolutely **** that night).... he dont get the credit...because how bad he dominated him

        He knocked out hatton as his undefeated weight class...he was the ring number 1 in that division - Pac ko's him in 2 rounds, and it was a devastating KO, i had picked it as a 50/50 fight originally...

        He Takes on cotto at 145 (the same weight cotto had come in at in 2 previous fights) Even after all the odds pacquiao had come through, people still picked cotto against him, because the size would be to much etc... Again I thought it was a 50/50

        It was a contest for 4 rounds...then pac just demolished him

        The same keeps happening, Mosley (ok hes way past it...) But what could he actually do in that fight? He got knocked down, and was badly hurt....

        There is no one for pac besides mayweather, for him to prove his greatness... because any1 he does take on...hes expected to completely demolish....

        Thats the difference between him and Bhop

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        • #84
          Originally posted by AssasinKing View Post
          Hahahahaha

          JMM, Barrera and Morales.....are fighters with the skill to surpass/on par with ANY wins on Hopkins list....further more Roy Jones a loss on Bhops record is probably the best fighter on there

          People can try to discredit pac all they want....

          People are talkin about Pavlik and all these other fighters who were favourite to beat bhop - And he beats them...they dont look great but the credit is amazing to bhop

          Pac was the complete underdog against DLH (even tho DLH was absolutely **** that night).... he dont get the credit...because how bad he dominated him

          He knocked out hatton as his undefeated weight class...he was the ring number 1 in that division - Pac ko's him in 2 rounds, and it was a devastating KO, i had picked it as a 50/50 fight originally...

          He Takes on cotto at 145 (the same weight cotto had come in at in 2 previous fights) Even after all the odds pacquiao had come through, people still picked cotto against him, because the size would be to much etc... Again I thought it was a 50/50

          It was a contest for 4 rounds...then pac just demolished him

          The same keeps happening, Mosley (ok hes way past it...) But what could he actually do in that fight? He got knocked down, and was badly hurt....

          There is no one for pac besides mayweather, for him to prove his greatness... because any1 he does take on...hes expected to completely demolish....

          Thats the difference between him and Bhop
          With all that said B-Hop is still better then Pac...

          At 46 Pac will be a footnote....

          Hopkins at Pacs age was doing what he's doing now winning big...

          Pac is a good fighter but has proven weaknesses, whats B-Hops....?

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          • #85
            To me,B-Hop is the greatest active fighter,period.Manny made a lot of noise a couple years ago as he took boxing by storm after dismantling Oscar.But lately he's been milking his popularity & people are realizing that he's not all they thought he was.But when sizing them up,remember B-Hop was fighting damn near a decade before Pacman began,nuff said.

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            • #86
              The win over Pascal was a great win for Hopkins but Pascal was an average fighter with a title in a weak division.
              Last edited by forget; 05-22-2011, 04:17 PM.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by GreatestIam View Post
                With all that said B-Hop is still better then Pac...

                At 46 Pac will be a footnote....

                Hopkins at Pacs age was doing what he's doing now winning big...

                Pac is a good fighter but has proven weaknesses, whats B-Hops....?
                Pac wont need to fight until that age...Hopkins has a desire to keep fighting

                Different fighters have different styles.... Pac is a come forward throw huge volume of punches fighter....what are his weaknesses? I mean, you can say he gets hit alot....but its not like hes trying to be completely elusive, hes there cos he wants to be hit and to trade with people....

                Bhop is a defensive fighter, throws a few punches then walks around again (as he did yesterday) His weaknesses can be he doesnt have a good enough punch output...thus why calzaghe beat him

                And people seem to forget...the WW division 2 years ago was the strongest division and every1 knew it.... Pac has pretty much beat all the people that were regarded the best...and now apparently hes fighting weak opposition

                Dont you ever look at it as someone being that great...their opposition looks bad?

                Pac wouldnt get credit for beaten any up and comers, Hopkins gets credit for beating up and comers....thats where it gets stupid

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by antrob View Post
                  Both Tarver and Pavlik where in everyone P4P top ten when Bernard beat them and Pascal was the Undisputed Light Heavyweight Champion.
                  Originally posted by [KLTP] View Post
                  Haha, people weren't saying that before they fought Hopkins. Hopkins was ATLEAST a 3/1 underdog in all 3 of those fights. Pavlik was deemed as the next big thing, he was the "white hope", the next Gerry Cooney. Pascal was being hyped up as Roy Jones, no one even gave him a chance against Tarver especially after he knocked out Roy Jones "He knocked out the guy who beat Hopkins!" and he was moving up. He beat all those guys, boom he gets discredited. The same thing happens to Floyd. Hopkins is just now getting the respect from the media.

                  Like I said, he'll never get appreciated by the fans until he's finally gone.
                  Tarver and Pavlik were rated p4p on the basis of a one performance against a name. Tarver was seriously overated on the basis of knocking out a weaken just come down in weight Floyd, and Pavlike for having JTs number but what else had Pavlik done? Not that much.

                  People underestimate BH and he suprises people all the time. If he was that good he wouldnt be made underdog all the time for all his fights. Pac is on such pedestal that even when he fights decent enough and dangerous people he gets criticised for taking the fights.

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                  • #89
                    Hopkins has beaten some of biggest names in the business

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by [KLTP] View Post
                      1. Sugar Ray Robinson
                      2. Muhammad Ali
                      3. Joe Louis
                      4. Willie Pep
                      5. Jack Johnson
                      6. Jack Dempsey
                      7. Henry Armstrong
                      8. Archie Moore
                      9. Bernard Hopkins
                      10. Benny Leonard

                      Can I see yours?
                      1. SRR
                      2. Greb
                      3. Langford
                      4. Armstrong
                      5. B. Leonard
                      6. Pep
                      7. Charles
                      8. Ross
                      9. Ali
                      10 Moore

                      Next 10 in no order

                      Duran
                      R. Leonard
                      Gans
                      Walker
                      Fitzsimmons
                      Wilde
                      Jofre
                      Whitaker
                      Louis
                      Tunney

                      That are 20 fighters who are greater than Hopkins without a doubt. is not even close.

                      And, both Greb and Langford have a case to being The GOAT and you don't even have them in your top 10?

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