Did Roy Jones handpick his opponents?

[jazluvr]

It's amusing how everyone on this site loves Roy, but always brings down Floyd, when Roy picked fights and easy opposition more than Floyd ever did.

Wrong! Roy fought people that beat him more than once. Can you say the same for Floyd??? Roy was no cherry picker. He might have not wanted to fight certain guys, but he did, didn't he?

[True Guru]

but he did beat a prime Bernard Hopkins.

The version of Bernard Hopkins that lost to Roy Jones Jr was a shadow of the man who would go on to become undisputed Middleweight champion.
A year after losing to Roy he was put on his ass and got a draw against the bum Segundo Mercado...prime Hopkins doesnt get put on his ass by that guy.

But Jones did beat a prime James Toney though or very close to it version.

James Toney was a walking corpse when he fought Roy Jones,He had to lose 48lbs in 6 weeks just to make the SMW limit and then he put on 17lbs in the 24 hrs after the weigh in lol even the HBO crew said they had never seen anything like it.

Other than that, I think he pretty much fought everyone he could have.

He ducked Dariusz M for for ****in years,Roy would never fight him.
Two of the titles he picked up were vacated by Dariusz M LMAO.
Dariusz was undisputed champ yet Roy didnt want to beat the best.
Also his reign at SMW was ****in bogus. after fighting Toney he fought 5 cans and then jumped to the next division.
At 160 he avoided the 5 yr WBO champ Chris Eubank and the other long reigning WBC champ Nigel Benn.

No, no, no. Jones in the day loved challenges and risks.

Put the crack pipe down.

Then he unified the light heavy title one belt at a time. Add to that his jump to heavy, I don't know where people get their facts!

LMAO he unified the division by avoiding the guy who held three of the belts and instead of fighting him he picked up two of his vacated straps.
Roy was always a paper champion in every division he was in,Never a lineal champ.

[Marcov]

One of the funnier posts I seen in awhile! Toney was the middleweight champion and Jones was the top contender. Toney had no interest in fighting Jones. Sure he had trouble making 160, but that had been on going for years and Jones was the kicker to make him move up. So Jones took on Hopkins for the vacant title. Toney would have trouble making heavyweight if not motivated. It wasn't like he was fighting at lightheavy droping in weight, he made Barkley drop from light heavy(just beat Hearns) then he made Charles Williams drop from lightheavyweight to fight him. I doubt he'd allow either of those fighters use weight loss as an excuse. So Toney wouldn't himself, he was a middleweight moved up and entered the ring ready and a top "pound4pound" fighter, just on that night Jones was the better man. But according to the experts(Ring,KO magazine & Las Vegas odds makers) Toney was the better man going in and Jones took a big chance taking the fight to prove himself.

[bojangles1987]

He gets that because he cleaned out light heavyweight and when you clean out a division you tend to fight some guys that aren't quite worthy. There are also some missed opportunities, but they were at middleweight and super middleweight where he didn't spend most his career. As far as fighting Ruiz, he wasn't trying to be the actual heavyweight champ.

[General Zod]

James Toney was a walking corpse when he fought Roy Jones,He had to lose 48lbs in 6 weeks just to make the SMW limit and then he put on 17lbs in the 24 hrs after the weigh in lol even the HBO crew said they had never seen anything like it.

I agree, its interesting how people conveniently leave this out, Toney wanted a rematch at lhw but never got one. Yet when Jones beats Hopkins theres a list of excuses, Hopkins had his chance to avenge his loss but he never took it.

[General Zod]

One of the funnier posts I seen in awhile! Toney was the middleweight champion and Jones was the top contender. Toney had no interest in fighting Jones. Sure he had trouble making 160, but that had been on going for years and Jones was the kicker to make him move up.

Jones wasnt the top contender for Toneys belt, Hopkins was. Jones was busy fighting at catchweights in the smw divison he would end up being the mandatory for Nigel Benns smw wbc belt. Toney had been openly calling out Jones for years after he moved up to smw. Didnt he risk making the smw limit for one last time to fight Jones? Did he not openly call out for a rematch at lhw?

So Jones took on Hopkins for the vacant title. Toney would have trouble making heavyweight if not motivated. It wasn't like he was fighting at lightheavy droping in weight, he made Barkley drop from light heavy(just beat Hearns) then he made Charles Williams drop from lightheavyweight to fight him.

Barkley was the IBF smw champion when Toney challenged him for his belt, Charles Williams was also his mandatory for his smw belt.

I doubt he'd allow either of those fighters use weight loss as an excuse. So Toney wouldn't himself, he was a middleweight moved up and entered the ring ready and a top "pound4pound" fighter, just on that night Jones was the better man. But according to the experts(Ring,KO magazine & Las Vegas odds makers) Toney was the better man going in and Jones took a big chance taking the fight to prove himself.

It was a known fact that Toneys days at smw were numbered, If you watch the Prefight talks Sugar Ray Leonard speaks about it. Do you think Toney looked his usual self that day?

[SplitSecond]

eubank also said he was afraid of roy jones and didn't want to fight him
tyson straight ducked roy.....
and toney for someone so weight drained only started fighting with his mouth open in the 7th round on or somethin
and by then jones was fighting with his mouth open too

[General Zod]

eubank also said he was afraid of roy jones and didn't want to fight him
tyson straight ducked roy.....
and [b]toney for someone so weight drained[b] only started fighting with his mouth open in the 7th round on or somethin
and by then jones was fighting with his mouth open too

I find it hard to believe that Collins would turn down a fight witth Jones he had been actively calling him out for years. Also it would of been his first mega payday.

The Hbo commentators also say a lot of things for example if you watch the Jones Ruiz fight, Lampley says that Jones is a fighter that doesnt like taking risks. If you watch the Tarver Jones II fight, Merchant says thats what happens when you avoid punchers.

Toney almost killed himself making weight for that fight, its covered in detail in the book called "The Dark Trade" by Donald McRae. Even the commentators mention that Toney didnt look his usual self in that fight.

[SplitSecond]

I find it hard to believe that Collins would turn down a fight witth Jones he had been actively calling him out for years. Also it would of been his first mega payday.

The Hbo commentators also say a lot of things for example if you watch the Jones Ruiz fight, Lampley says that Jones is a fighter that doesnt take risks.
Also if you watch the Tarver Jones II fight, Merchant says thats whah happens when you avoid punchers.

Toney almost killed himself making weight for that fight, its covered in detail in the book called "The Dark Trade" by Donald McRae. Even the commentators mention that Toney didnt look his usual self in that fight.

if you've watched other toney fights you'll notice the commentators are always on about toney's weights


think ricky hatton

[True Guru]

if you've watched other toney fights you'll notice the commentators are always on about toney's weights


think ricky hatton

James Toney hardly had a training camp for the Jones fight,He starved himself to lose 48lbs in 6 weeks...cmon man,No one is saying thats Roys fault but there is no way in hell Toney was anywhere near his best in that fight.
He was in disgraceful condition and deserved to get his ass handed to him.