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Tommy Hearns is the only fighter who would be a big favorite against Floyd at 147.

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  • #11
    The great welters KO Floyd, it really isn't close. Fans who are less than 30 years old have no clue unless they study the history of the division.
    Floyd has No Power! NONE! Thats the big difference, he is clever has great eye/hand coordination but without power his defense will be preached.
    Sugar Ray Robinson KO's him, Hearns KO's Leonard will get him later by tko.
    Then theres;
    Gavilan
    Burley
    Armstrong
    Basilio
    Napolis
    Whitaker
    Griffith
    Walcott
    Trinidad
    Walker

    learn some history, the Welter division is filled with guys with power who take risks and come to fight and will not be denied against a guy with no power who runs away.

    Personally after watching the Pac fight Floyd could have stopped Manny by the 9th if he gave a huge effort!! He didn't and thats the difference between his mind and the men that I mentioned here. They will go in to KO him and won't stop the way Floyds opponents do!
    Millionaires loose their drive and heart to win, they fight like bankers and bankers can't fight!

    Ray

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
      The great welters KO Floyd, it really isn't close. Fans who are less than 30 years old have no clue unless they study the history of the division.
      Floyd has No Power! NONE! Thats the big difference, he is clever has great eye/hand coordination but without power his defense will be preached.
      Sugar Ray Robinson KO's him, Hearns KO's Leonard will get him later by tko.
      Then theres;
      Gavilan
      Burley
      Armstrong
      Basilio
      Napolis
      Whitaker
      Griffith
      Walcott
      Trinidad
      Walker

      learn some history, the Welter division is filled with guys with power who take risks and come to fight and will not be denied against a guy with no power who runs away.

      Personally after watching the Pac fight Floyd could have stopped Manny by the 9th if he gave a huge effort!! He didn't and thats the difference between his mind and the men that I mentioned here. They will go in to KO him and won't stop the way Floyds opponents do!
      Millionaires loose their drive and heart to win, they fight like bankers and bankers can't fight!

      Ray
      I know you know a lot about boxing Mr. Ray but I don't think at any point during Floyd's fight with Pacquiao he could have stopped him. To stop an opponent you have to take risk and based on the times Floyd took risk he was countered and hurt.

      Floyd wouldn't be favored against guys like Leonard, Hearns, and Robinson is because he would lose all his physical advantages and would have to take risk, something Floyd would rather not do.

      Honestly Floyd isn't as good as some posters would like to believe, he has gotten by fight naturally ungifted fighters like Maidana and Guerrero. But when Floyd takes risk he's hurt.

      Usually he is able to weather the storm because the opponent lacks the tools to follow up being either against slower fighters like Maidana or smaller fighters like Manny.
      Last edited by SilverMiles; 05-10-2015, 06:01 PM.

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      • #13
        Whitaker and Benitez would test Floyd's patience.

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        • #14
          I also thought Hearns the one guy I just can't see Floyd beating. But everyone has to imagine a younger Floyd, not the careful 38 year old one he is now. It's possible he'd counter Hearns with a hard right and severly hurt him like SRL did. Hearns didn't have the best chin in the world.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Mick6 View Post
            I also thought Hearns the one guy I just can't see Floyd beating. But everyone has to imagine a younger Floyd, not the careful 38 year old one he is now. It's possible he'd counter Hearns with a hard right and severly hurt him like SRL did. Hearns didn't have the best chin in the world.
            young Floyd was not a welterweight, young Tommy was.

            older Floyd is a welterweight, older Tommy was a Light Heavy.

            Floyd does not carry his power as a welter. Tommy f's Floyd up real bad.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
              young Floyd was not a welterweight, young Tommy was.

              older Floyd is a welterweight, older Tommy was a Light Heavy.

              Floyd does not carry his power as a welter. Tommy f's Floyd up real bad.
              Yeah, I think you're right. When comparing boxers it's easy to overlook what weight they were in their primes. So really, Floyd should be more compared to Duran and other great Lightweights.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Mick6 View Post
                I also thought Hearns the one guy I just can't see Floyd beating. But everyone has to imagine a younger Floyd, not the careful 38 year old one he is now. It's possible he'd counter Hearns with a hard right and severly hurt him like SRL did. Hearns didn't have the best chin in the world.
                Hearns chin was never in question at 147, only when he fought much bigger fighters. Top that by the fact that Floyd has no real power at 147 and Floyd does not have a weapon that is superior to Hearns weapons.

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                • #18
                  I just don't see how Floyd could beat Hearns. Even with his ability to adjust just.....I can't see it happening. Worst style matchup Floyd would face is Hearns.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
                    The great welters KO Floyd, it really isn't close. Fans who are less than 30 years old have no clue unless they study the history of the division.
                    Floyd has No Power! NONE! Thats the big difference, he is clever has great eye/hand coordination but without power his defense will be preached.
                    Sugar Ray Robinson KO's him, Hearns KO's Leonard will get him later by tko.
                    Then theres;
                    Gavilan
                    Burley
                    Armstrong
                    Basilio
                    Napolis
                    Whitaker
                    Griffith
                    Walcott
                    Trinidad
                    Walker

                    learn some history, the Welter division is filled with guys with power who take risks and come to fight and will not be denied against a guy with no power who runs away.

                    Personally after watching the Pac fight Floyd could have stopped Manny by the 9th if he gave a huge effort!! He didn't and thats the difference between his mind and the men that I mentioned here. They will go in to KO him and won't stop the way Floyds opponents do!
                    Millionaires loose their drive and heart to win, they fight like bankers and bankers can't fight!

                    Ray
                    what floyd are you guys talking about? the 38 year old floyd or 32 yr old floyd who came back from his layoff or 29-31 floyd who was able to run circles around a much larger baldomir (tho i am in NO WAY comparing baldomirs skill to any of the great fighters of the past, just size) and fight on the inside with a fast southpaw in zab judah? Theres a reason that people even put floyd in the conversation with people like this. I also understand the affinity older fight fans have with the atgs of the past. But i think we sometimes forget the fighter you are watching. Floyd EVOLVES. That is the reason he is still undefeated. He cant fight the fighters the same way in 2015 like he did in 2006 or he would lose , and he cant fight the fighters in 06 like he did in 98-00 or he woulda lost. I still remember when floyd was considered a "power puncher" then a "boxer puncher" then a "pure boxer" now a "defensive specialist". Its not so much....if im saying it right....what you can do its how you do it. Floyds biggest asset..his greatest weapon that has allowed him to make 46 of 48 opponents (think about that) look damn near average in the ring is his IQ. He out thinks you. He takes what your good at and nullifies it. He imposes his WILL. I honestly believe he has the ability to beat every single fighter on your list. Would he... thats a different story of course lol. I also think we may look at floyd in the wrong view in terms of how he thinks about boxing. He talks about money all the time and blah blah blah. But he KNEW he was getting a 100million dollars on saturday guaranteed and yet he still chose to do what ever it took to make sure his hand was raised at the end. Thats not a bankers mindset my friend. Actions speak louder than words, Floyd wanted that win on pacquiao first and foremost.

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                    • #20
                      Any of the fabulous four beat Manny and Floyd. The only one they had the best chance to beat is Duran but even that is questionable.

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