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  • Middleweight is a wide open division right now.

    Sergio Martinez vs. Serhiy Dzinziruk - This is an ok fight for the fans, but this could have easily been held at 154lb.

    Felix Sturm - This guy is ok, probably fringe world level. A unification with Sylvester would do us all a favour of getting rid of one of the paper champions. Sergio should take this guys title if he wants to climb the P4P rankings.

    Sebastian Sylvester - This guy is the epitome of a paper champion, holding a world title to ransom. He is not much better than European level. Probably will hold the title for another 3-4 years and refuse to fight any seriously top opponents.

    Dmitry Pirog - Looked good smashing an American hypejob, but truly hasn't fought at the highest level. Would have a good chance against the other title holders in the division.

    Gennady Golovkin - Looks decent so far but pretty untested at genuine world level.

    Daniel Geale - Has some good wins on his resume, but lost to Anthony Mundine. Nothing serious at the top level.

    Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - Unknown quantity.

    Garth Wood, Peter Manfredo Jr. and Sergio Mora - LOL

    Andy Lee and Craig McEwan - Nothing special. Contender level at best.

    Darren Barker and Matthew Macklin - Both decent but not of the top level.

    Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. - Con job.

    Anthony Mundine - LOL

    Maksym Bursak - C+

    Fernando Guerrero - Fraudulent.

    David Lemieux - Will smash Rubio if he's really as good as people think. Could be the saviour.

    We need these guys to start fighting eachother and wittling the numbers down. To be honest, this division is perfect for second coming of the Super Six. Or maybe increase the number to Eight and lose the word Super. Some very interesting fights here but I miss having an undisputed middlweight king.

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    There's some decent talent there.

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    • #3
      Lol its funny how you grouped all the reality show contestants into one.

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      • #4
        Martinez is an elite fighter and the Ring/lineal Champion, so it's not wide open, they have to go through an elite fighter to get to the throne.

        Sylvester and Sturm are paper titlists, but Pirog, Golovkin, Jacobs, Guerrero, Lee, Kirkland, Angulo are an influx of young talent that will have you changing your opinion in time.

        130 is an open division, 160 is not.

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        • #5
          The guy Sergio Martinez is not a natural middleweight, and he won the title beating a vulnerable, exposed flop. I would say the division is wide open for any serious, natural middleweights.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by QUELOQUE View Post
            Martinez is an elite fighter and the Ring/lineal Champion, so it's not wide open, they have to go through an elite fighter to get to the throne.

            Sylvester and Sturm are paper titlists, but Pirog, Golovkin, Jacobs, Guerrero, Lee, Kirkland, Angulo are an influx of young talent that will have you changing your opinion in time.

            130 is an open division, 160 is not.
            What he said..

            I dont see how anyone can discount Martinez's status as the man of the division.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by White Briton View Post
              Sergio Martinez vs. Serhiy Dzinziruk - This is an ok fight for the fans, but this could have easily been held at 154lb.

              Felix Sturm - This guy is ok, probably fringe world level. A unification with Sylvester would do us all a favour of getting rid of one of the paper champions. Sergio should take this guys title if he wants to climb the P4P rankings.

              Sebastian Sylvester - This guy is the epitome of a paper champion, holding a world title to ransom. He is not much better than European level. Probably will hold the title for another 3-4 years and refuse to fight any seriously top opponents.

              Dmitry Pirog - Looked good smashing an American hypejob, but truly hasn't fought at the highest level. Would have a good chance against the other title holders in the division.

              Gennady Golovkin - Looks decent so far but pretty untested at genuine world level.

              Daniel Geale - Has some good wins on his resume, but lost to Anthony Mundine. Nothing serious at the top level.

              Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam - Unknown quantity.

              Garth Wood, Peter Manfredo Jr. and Sergio Mora - LOL

              Andy Lee and Craig McEwan - Nothing special. Contender level at best.

              Darren Barker and Matthew Macklin - Both decent but not of the top level.

              Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. - Con job.

              Anthony Mundine - LOL

              Maksym Bursak - C+

              Fernando Guerrero - Fraudulent.

              David Lemieux - Will smash Rubio if he's really as good as people think. Could be the saviour.

              We need these guys to start fighting eachother and wittling the numbers down. To be honest, this division is perfect for second coming of the Super Six. Or maybe increase the number to Eight and lose the word Super. Some very interesting fights here but I miss having an undisputed middlweight king.
              defo needs a super six tournament.

              the german champs need to fight each other.

              pirog v martinez would be amazing.

              i think winky if he wins and shows hes still got it,then he could give martinez and others a tough fight.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by White Briton View Post
                The guy Sergio Martinez is not a natural middleweight, and he won the title beating a vulnerable, exposed flop. I would say the division is wide open for any serious, natural middleweights.
                It doesn't matter how you try to put it to discredit it. Martinez clearly beat the man that had the lineage passed down from Hopkins-Trinidad. Then he KTFO a top 3 middleweight, who was also top 5 P4P.

                Pacquiao is not a natural welterweight, is the division wide open? Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and soon to be Mosley will disagree if you'd say yes. JMM isn't a natural lightweight, is the division wide open? I think you got the point.

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                • #9
                  the MW division is wide open.... S-Mart is good, but I don't think he can dominate it like Bhop did.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                    the MW division is wide open.... S-Mart is good, but I don't think he can dominate it like Bhop did.
                    During B-hops reign there was no talent in the division whats so ever, only welters coming were good enough to challenge and as it turned out even the super star welters like Tito and Oscar were much to small for 6ft 1 Hopkins.

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