Comments Thread For: Arce Believes Pacquiao Has Used Performance Enhancers

[The Big Dunn]

Pacquiao's last fight sold 1.15 MM PPV. I don't care what he Mayweather felt. It is what it is. They're both the biggest PPV attraction of the sport.

according to Bob arum. no one else has confirmed this. Unless you think bob wouldn't lie.

[Bermuda]

Marquez proved pacquiao wasn't on peds

he beat him harder and clearer in the 3rd and 4th fights than the first and second





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i think more than anything it showed that marquez has been on the juice...he looked more bigger/muscular than he has ever looked, and on top of that he was punching much harder than he has ever before..and all of this happening at age 39 and while working with a known ped dealer/guru/chemist...

the same ped chemist that helped prepare arce in his fight with vazquez jr...

just look at how freakishly hulkish marquez looks lol.....



before peds....35 years old



after peds....39 years old

[Sweden2716]

Mayweather and Pacman fight would have been huge about 3 to 4 years ago and put boxing back in the news, now it is just another great fight that was never made because of greedy/scared fighters.

[turnedup]

was this before or after "let the commission do it's job"? don't try to justify pac's ducking of extra testing by cheerleading 24/7 OSDT all of a sudden. mayweather's "bull****" testing was still better than nothing.

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Better than nothing? Really, so if I tell a parole officer test me for weed but not for crack that's better? That's what GBP's contract is with USADA..so I can tell you what not to test for allowing my boxer to use what's not being tested for but that's better? In what galaxy? Ask winky wright's opinion on USADA he'll bring you to the light bro and he was a gbp boxer himself.

People are so hell bent on defying Floyd and what he's doing for testing in boxing, they dismiss the key word in OST.

Olympic Testing=24/7 365.... Random blood and urine.
Olympic STYLE Testing= In the same manner as Olympic Testing, random blood and urine.

The key word is "Style"

Agreed, what is being done in boxing is not 24/7 testing and that's the problem right there..any fool can cycle off drugs three months prior to testing taking place.

Who does`nt believe that Pac-juice wasn`t on Peds?Even Pac groupies know he was using but they like to play possum.

Please prove this..other wise I call bullshhhh

But Floyd should`nt have to bow down an offer Pacquiao money he don`t deserve.I don`t know if 40 mil and Money on the back end is fair cause i don`t have enough info to calculate,but a 50/50 split is certainly not fair for the simple fact that Floyd makes far more money then Pacquiao partly because Floyd finances his fights.Floyd pays a minimum of 10 mil in promotional fees and he pays Goldenboy a fee to manage the promotion.So that mean Floyd deserves extra for the financial investment he`s making.

So the top two rockers in the world go on tour, somehow one can dictate how much money the other guy is entitled to even though one without the other will never see that kind of payday? Some of you folks need to take a business class..just because Floyd was stupid enough to give Oscar a $72 million dollar payday while being paid $10 million for the same fight doesn't mean everyone is just as stupid. Bob will always win that argument..Floyd got played the ffffffk out by GBP for that fight, bet you Manny pocketed more money than Floyd for fighting the same guy..either way..Floyd is one fighter he's not both fighters..there is a middle ground and a 55% offering to the winner is something most top two fighters would agree is pretty damn fair since both men believe they'd win the fight..please revisit your logic because from a business standpoint a fight with a guaranteed $150 million bucks on the table $40 million is not a fair meeting ground for either man.

[DominiBox]

according to Bob arum. no one else has confirmed this. Unless you think bob wouldn't lie.

Would it surprise you that the the fight made 1.15 MM sales ?
Cuz Pac-Marquez IV was a huge event.

[DominiBox]

Better than nothing? Really, so if I tell a parole officer test me for weed but not for crack that's better? That's what GBP's contract is with USADA..so I can tell you what not to test for allowing my boxer to use what's not being tested for but that's better? In what galaxy? Ask winky wright's opinion on USADA he'll bring you to the light bro and he was a gbp boxer himself.



Agreed, what is being done in boxing is not 24/7 testing and that's the problem right there..any fool can cycle off drugs three months prior to testing taking place.



Please prove this..other wise I call bullshhhh



So the top two rockers in the world go on tour, somehow one can dictate how much money the other guy is entitled to even though one without the other will never see that kind of payday? Some of you folks need to take a business class..just because Floyd was stupid enough to give Oscar a $72 million dollar payday while being paid $10 million for the same fight doesn't mean everyone is just as stupid. Bob will always win that argument..Floyd got played the ffffffk out by GBP for that fight, bet you Manny pocketed more money than Floyd for fighting the same guy..either way..Floyd is one fighter he's not both fighters..there is a middle ground and a 55% offering to the winner is something most top two fighters would agree is pretty damn fair since both men believe they'd win the fight..please revisit your logic because from a business standpoint a fight with a guaranteed $150 million bucks on the table $40 million is not a fair meeting ground for either man.

I just wanna say.... Thank you chief!!

[John Barron]

This is the problem with the sport. Fans like this ^. By their logic, we must settle for tests that do not guarantee that you can find any banned substances or specific substance, because "something is better than nothing."

People with a sufficient IQ call this waste of time, used to confuse weekend fans.

And btw, i'm not justifying things here. I'm a fan of the sport of boxing, not a ptard or a fl-mo.... So you can change the argument.

Better than nothing? Really, so if I tell a parole officer test me for weed but not for crack that's better? That's what GBP's contract is with USADA..so I can tell you what not to test for allowing my boxer to use what's not being tested for but that's better? In what galaxy? Ask winky wright's opinion on USADA he'll bring you to the light bro and he was a gbp boxer himself.

can you two tell me how many fighters were busted last year by floyd's bull**** style testing?

are you two gonna sit here and tell me extra blood testing PLUS the commission testing isn't better than just having regular commission testing? who was talking about extra testing before floyd brought up topic? who was doing 24/7 drug testing at the time? nobody so be real with this ****.

pac stans went life and death trying to protect pacquiao and the commission for years. now we got dominibox here trying to champion REAL testing just to say well it was ok for pac to duck it cause it wasn't real...

[josenoway]

Same dumba$$es that tried to justify and rationalize 'cutoffs' and 'fear of needles'.

Like we're supposed to believe Pac who came up with all sorts of excuses to duck better testing during TRAINING CAMP would be willing to be tested YEAR ROUND? What, his fear of needles disappears if it's 24/7 365 days but when it's 24/7 8 weeks he's superstitious, needs cutoffs, scared of needles?

lmao.

can you two tell me how many fighters were busted last year by floyd's bull**** style testing?

are you two gonna sit here and tell me extra blood testing PLUS the commission testing isn't better than just having regular commission testing? who was talking about extra testing before floyd brought up topic? who was doing 24/7 drug testing at the time? nobody so be real with this ****.

pac stans went life and death trying to protect pacquiao and the commission for years. now we got dominibox here trying to champion REAL testing just to say well it was ok for pac to duck it cause it wasn't real...

[loui_ludwig]

So does Arce thinks JM Marquez is on PEDs also?

[turnedup]

can you two tell me how many fighters were busted last year by floyd's bull**** style testing?

are you two gonna sit here and tell me extra blood testing PLUS the commission testing isn't better than just having regular commission testing? who was talking about extra testing before floyd brought up topic? who was doing 24/7 drug testing at the time? nobody so be real with this ****.

pac stans went life and death trying to protect pacquiao and the commission for years. now we got dominibox here trying to champion REAL testing just to say well it was ok for pac to duck it cause it wasn't real...

I'll put you on right now..go GOOGLE winky right usada Peter Quillin..see what happened when Quillin clearly came out positive..did you hear about it? Nope..Did usada make this snafu public? Nope..they just cancelled the all the testing and said they threw out the samples..what's the one common denominator here? GBP..same GBP that orders and pays for Floyd's exact testing. So you tell me..hypothetically of course..if someone snuck a drug in Floyd's water or food and he came out positive..you honestly think GBP wouldn't wipe that off the map? I mean didn't they for Quillin and he was a nobody then, he was still a prospect for the love of sanity here. So again how is this legit testing? The promoters best interest is always first..if a promoters fight stands the chance of derailing then I wouldn't have a zero faith in USADA for the truth. Matter of fact if Erik Morales had been 8 to 10 years younger, actually stood a chance of beating Garcia we would've never heard he failed a test..that much i'm damn sure of. Oh and for the record that doesn't apply only to GBP that applies to any promotional company with enough on the line..if you can buy a judge, you can buy a lab technician, or for that matter the person he reports to, or even the executive that guy reports to. USADA faces no penalty and it's contracts with promoters are a side circus business..100k a fight at that..how does a company handle you when they think they might lose your business? They bend over backwards to keep you on their billing sheets. This is the fight game, people need to wake up. Boxing has never been on an even ground and any true historian/fan who has gone back far enough in it's history would know that.