Turkey shoots down Russian Fighter

[jaded]

It really is dumbfounding how people in positions of power never learn to never poke the Russian bear. Two of the most prominent conquerors learned this the hard way: Napoleon Bonaparte and Adolf Hitler.

The difference here though is that Bonaparte and Hitler invaded Russia and the Russian winters pretty much killed them.

When Russia went into Afghanistan it drained them physically and financially and it didn't really work out very well.

Russia's economy won't be able to handle a long war in Syria...the question is how fast they can accomplish their mission if they can.

[krazyn8tive]

It seems the overwhelming majority of people on the outside looking in still view russia the old Soviet lens. It's a totally different country and economy now. I know how history worked out. They lost 55,000 in Afghanistan...pretty much their Vietnam.

[krazyn8tive]

The difference here though is that Bonaparte and Hitler invaded Russia and the Russian winters pretty much killed them.

When Russia went into Afghanistan it drained them physically and financially and it didn't really work out very well.

Russia's economy won't be able to handle a long war in Syria...the question is how fast they can accomplish their mission if they can.

Afghanistan did not drain the Soviet Union financially at all. It was the Cold War with the United States and the arms race during said Cold War.

[D-MiZe]

I'm forgetting and not caring one bit.

You should 'cause those ****s and ISIS are one of the same.

[Y0@NN]

You should 'cause those ****s and ISIS are one of the same.

I thought you meant they were in the allied camp in ww2.

[jaded]

Afghanistan did not drain the Soviet Union financially at all. It was the Cold War with the United States and the arms race during said Cold War.

Definitely the arms race and cold war were a heavy strain on Russia...but Afghanistan was 10 years of war for Russia and it cost them billions.

This from the History Channel...

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-h...om-afghanistan

For the Soviet Union, the intervention proved extraordinarily costly in a number of ways. While the Soviets never released official casualty figures for the war in Afghanistan, U.S. intelligence sources estimated that as many as 15,000 Russian troops died in Afghanistan, and the economic cost to the already struggling Soviet economy ran into billions of dollars.

By 1988, the Soviets decided to extricate itself from the situation. Russian leader Mikhail Gorbachev saw the Afghan intervention as an increasing drain on the Soviet economy

[Left Hook Tua]

Definitely the arms race and cold war were a heavy strain on Russia...but Afghanistan was 10 years of war for Russia and it cost them billions.

This from the History Channel...

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-h...om-afghanistan

For the Soviet Union, the intervention proved extraordinarily costly in a number of ways. While the Soviets never released official casualty figures for the war in Afghanistan, U.S. intelligence sources estimated that as many as 15,000 Russian troops died in Afghanistan, and the economic cost to the already struggling Soviet economy ran into billions of dollars.

By 1988, the Soviets decided to extricate itself from the situation. Russian leader Mikhail Gorbachev saw the Afghan intervention as an increasing drain on the Soviet economy

the soviets actually decided to leave since 1985-1986.

but didn't til 1988.

crazy how things work.

like america in vietnam.

[BKM-]

Russia has already started the economic sanctions, and to add insult to injured Turkish butts, they are reportedly going to recognize the Armenian Genocide which is like a punch below the belt for the Turks. Lovely.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

All I know is that Turkey don't want none of Russia..

That's like Amir khan vs kovolev

[Left Hook Tua]

All I know is that Turkey don't want none of Russia..

That's like Amir khan vs kovolev

neither wants war.

but as far as being scared of russia?

turks have a strong military.

they held nato south flank during cold war vs. much larger, much stronger soviet union.

unlike most nato, turks bordered USSR and had no ally next door.

the greeks were but they hate turks more than russians.


ppl overestimate current russian power.