Put A Fork In Him; Judah's Done

[MindBat]

Acceptance is the first key to recovery.

Judah didn't show anything in this fight that suddenly makes him a bad fighter or incapable of fighting on a championship level. You can ***** about his attitude all you want, but it wont change the fact that he's still a solid, solid fighter.

He's a good contender for upcoming fighters, but he's done as a solid prospect for any title.

He's had plenty of opportunities to prove his worth.

Check his most recent fights.

Would love to see him against Margarito.

[Dirt E Gomez]

Check his most recent fights.

So he's not worth a damn because he's fighting in one of the most (if not the most) loaded division in boxing? He's hardly a perfect fighter, but at 140, which he can easily make, he'll be more than a contender. If he really straightens up he could still make noise at 147 too, although it does seem like fighters are just built a little too solid for him at WW.

[MJ406]

Zab is way too tiny at 147

he's like what 5'7 ish? and Cotto who's the same height is much thicker for the weight.

if Judah can get down to 143, why not fight at 140?


Paulie vs Zab would be a good comeback fight, and marketable as hell.

[COMMY]

Zab needs to retire.

[MindBat]

So he's not worth a damn because he's fighting in one of the most (if not the most) loaded division in boxing? He's hardly a perfect fighter, but at 140, which he can easily make, he'll be more than a contender. If he really straightens up he could still make noise at 147 too, although it does seem like fighters are just built a little too solid for him at WW.

My goodness.

Ok. Let's say he goes down to 140.

If he doesn't perform at his best, what does that make him?

[THe TRiNiTY]

Let's say there's a good chance he can drop down to 140.

Anyone willing to make a bet with me that if he lands an uppercut on Hatton's chin, Hatton takes it like nothing?

[Dirt E Gomez]

My goodness.

Ok. Let's say he goes down to 140.

If he doesn't perform at his best, what does that make him?

Why ask stupid questions?

If he goes down to 140 and can't perform then he is done. But you're not debating or bringing any facts to the table; you're merely pointing to a potential outcome.

[MindBat]

Why ask stupid questions?

If he goes down to 140 and can't perform then he is done. But you're not debating or bringing any facts to the table; you're merely pointing to a potential outcome.

Yes. A potential outcome that will prove he's done as a legitimate contender.

He's a professional fighter that could've made smart adjustments against Clotttey for Christ sakes!

CLOTTEY!

But he came up short.

He lost against Baldomir.

BALDOMIR, for Christ Sakes!

What does that prove?

[Dirt E Gomez]

Yes. A potential outcome that will prove he's done as a legitimate contender.

You must've missed the part that it's a potential outcome.

He's a professional fighter that could've made smart adjustments against Clotttey for Christ sakes!

There isn't much in the way Zab could've done given his limitations with Clottey. He's got a solid chin, solid defense, and stronger punches. He could've tried to box more, but that wouldn't have been enough given the point in the fight most likely.

He lost against Baldomir.

The fight was closer than a lot of people like to talk about it, despite Baldomir winning. Judah simply can't hurt Baldomir. His chin is rock and when Judah realized he couldn't hurt him and vastly underrated his abilities he got a lesson in humility on a big stage.

At 140 Zab's power is more impressive and chins are weaker. Once again: Nothing Judah showed tonight makes him a bad fighter.

[MindBat]

You must've missed the part that it's a potential outcome.

There isn't much in the way Zab could've done given his limitations with Clottey. He's got a solid chin, solid defense, and stronger punches. He could've tried to box more, but that wouldn't have been enough given the point in the fight most likely.

The fight was closer than a lot of people like to talk about it, despite Baldomir winning. Judah simply can't hurt Baldomir. His chin is rock and when Judah realized he couldn't hurt him and vastly underrated his abilities he got a lesson in humility on a big stage.

At 140 Zab's power is more impressive and chins are weaker. Once again: Nothing Judah showed tonight makes him a bad fighter.

Ok. You know what?

I got over heated a bit over this fight.

But I don't think judah's getting any better at 140 or 135, or any other weight for that matter.

Mayweather knew that way before he fought him.

But, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

Just check the other threads about Judah.

Everybody can't be wrong.