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Did JMM-Pacquiao III Hurt pacman's ranking?
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Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View PostI don't think Mayweather can fight the way he used to(constant lateral movement and angles). At 34 he is a flat footed fighter that relies MUCH more heavily on the shoulder roll to avoid punches than he used to.
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Originally posted by RubenSonny View PostThis is the same guy who struggled against a washed up Casa, was getting buzzed by Juan Diaz - went through quite a lot to get that win, and he was dropped by Katsidis. in all of his fights at lightweight he has looked past it he is far removed from his prime he doesn't have the same legs at all, in fact he was showing signs of decline before the 2nd meeting with Pacquiao. He is undoubtedly past it, I don't see any argument against it either, your using 1 fight against several and the general consensus for the past few years had been that he is well past-it.
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Yes, they should change the pound for pound rankings. Mayweather should be #1. Marquez should be up higher than where he is now and Manny should be somewhere below Marquez.
As far as Mayweathr being flatfooted. He has fought flatfooted before when he was younger. A part of me believes that he is fighting in this manner purposely. A part of me does wonder though... i can't lie.
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Originally posted by BigStereotype View PostI take it that he was "Morales"ing those guys - he knew he could bang it out with them so he did. He showed speed, accuracy, combinations and better defense than I've seen from him in a long long time against Pacquiao. He could just be another ageless wonder.
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Pacquiao can still redeem himself. All the greats have had off-nights, and while I'm not convinced that this was one, he could have it categorized as an off-night with a decisive win over Marquez in a rematch or Mayweather of course.
In that case it will take very little away from his legacy. As of now, I believe it shows that Pacquiao matches up with certain fighters far better than with others and that his recent dominance has a lot to do with clever match-making.
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Originally posted by Scott9945 View PostHe's making over 20 million dollars in each fight without taking major punishment, and you think he should retire? Would you?
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Originally posted by Marchegiano View PostI didn't mean that as an attack on PacMan. I feel like he's done enough, and there isn't much left for him. Sure he can make money, but his historical achievement days imo are probably behind him. Yes, I'd retire. Why not get out while your still a king?
I think Floyd needs to make the fight ASAP before Manny does retire, its so winnable - tests or not.
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Originally posted by BigStereotype View PostJust for a bit of context (so I don't look TOTALLY like a blind nuthugger ), he "struggled" with Terdsak Jandaeng and Jimrex Jaca before he even left featherweight. He just likes to win an exciting fight if he thinks he has the option.
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Underdog or not, I knew for certain Marquez would win that fight and get robbed.
I am honestly shocked by the amount of people who were thinking otherwise before the fight.
What had pac done to suggest he'd finally solved Maruez style in his fights just before this one???
NOTHING
Pac is like a child who's learned not to touch the stove or he'll get burned.
Meaning he's afraid to fight to valiantly against Marquez, because he knows he'll get punished for evry mistake.
The hunger and fire he used to have is all gone.......Last edited by lightsout_finit; 11-15-2011, 03:46 PM.
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