Lets assume Manny wasn't on PEDs and He suddenly does for his next fight

[TysonBomb]

No one knows who is using PEDs or not ... unless you are stupid enough to get caught by the incompetent tests of today

Donaire is the only guy I would say for sure is 100% clean.

[obie]

Where's the factual article on this again?

The USADA numbers don't add up.

Total tests conducted by USADA for boxing on the first 2 quarter of 2012 - 49
http://www.usada.org/sport-testing-numbers-2012


Total tests on atheletes tested under their program for the 1st 2 quarter of 2012(boxing) - 45
http://www.usada.org/athlete-test-history

1st Qtr 2012

22 Athletes Selected
36 Total Tests

Athlete Name Test Count
Luis E Arias 1
Dominic Breazeale 1
Tiara Brown 1
Marcus Browne 1
Joseph P Diaz 2
Tyreishia Douglas 3
Marlen Esparza 3
Terrell M Gausha 1
Chatiqua Hemingway 2
Tika Hemingway 1
Jamel Herring 1
Michael Hunter 1
Mikaela Mayer 1
Jose C Ramirez 1
Sijuola Shabazz 4
Claressa Shields 1
Lenroy C Thompson 2
Quanitta L Underwood 3
Santos Vasquez 1
Rau'Shee M Warren 2
Andrecia Wasson 2
Joseph Williams 1


2nd Qtr 2012

6 Athletes Selected
9 Total Tests

Athlete Name Test Count
Joseph P Diaz 1
Marlen Esparza 1
Claressa Shields 1
Errol L Spence 1
Quanitta L Underwood 2
Rau'Shee M Warren 3

Total tests conducted for Cotto-Mayweather - 18
http://www.usada.org/cotto-mayweather

[boliodogs]

I guess I am just not convinced that peds improve a fighter that much. Some old timers like Robinson and Louis were very impressive before peds were around. Would they have been twice as good if they had used peds.? I don't think so.

[DeadLikeMe]

Manny has been blood doped for years already.

[dan_cov]

I guess I am just not convinced that peds improve a fighter that much. Some old timers like Robinson and Louis were very impressive before peds were around. Would they have been twice as good if they had used peds.? I don't think so.

Steroids was around back then but I get your point.
Of course steroids help athletes in terms of strength & recovery & so forth but myself, I think its totally blown out of proportion to how much they will aid an athlete.

I am not saying they don't have advantages but people who go on that they will give you superhuman strength, give you unlimited stamina, reflexes of a cat, punching power of a prime Foreman etc are grossly mistaken.

I also think that unless your training routine is on point and your diet is near perfect & you're getting sufficient rest you will see minimal gains in anything from steroids.