Would Pacquiao have been able to Move up Divisons back in the day without Science?

[andrew14]

It means that Henry's opponent didn't have science on them either. Pac's opponents have the advantages of science just as he does.

simple nutritiuos post! you should learn from this!

[Benny Leonard]

manny pacquiao is aging very well. he's only reaching his adult form now. his body when he was superfeather weight and below was not his fully develop adult body. his face as well is different now to when he was sfw and below



all thank to alex ariza. they seem to have a pretty close relationship as well





dont think he goes heavy on this stuff like you think he is. this will help you but to a certain degree only. if this stuff worked so great then we would be having hundreds of supper boxers

he's trainer and roach let manny eat what ever he likes since he has no issues. manny eats filipino and thai food...


manny benefits from both but more to the latter

manny is the henry armstrong of this generation. what you are witnessing is a living legend

Nice breakdown

[hookoutofhell]

pacman i believe is a rare breed, the fighter who has all the physical gifts but a willingness to learn and a hunger for peer recognition and glory.

sometimes we have fighters with one and not the other e.g. physical gifts: mayweather, but unwilling to test himself against the best, the hunger for competition/glory is there in hatton but his skills are lacking.

imo pacmans natural weight class is LW, his body would have naturally developed without science, nutrition and all that rest of it. imo if he had trained without all the benefits of modern science i think he would be a LW today.

[nujabes77]

hery came close to getting the middleweight belt, that would've been epic

[Allucard]

I was thinking about this with regards to the comparison with Henry Armstrong as well as the many other little Men that challenged bigger competition.

Today, Pac has his own personal trainer/nutritionist guru. Everything is mapped out to increase the evolution of Manny Pacquiao. He has not only been able to increase muscle size, but he is seemingly stronger, more powerful, and maybe even faster and has great stamina despite moving up many divisions in quick time at his current age.

However, during Armstrong's time, did he really have such advantages?

The quality of Protein Powders; Vitamins; Supplements; Science backing to understand nutrition and training made specific to the athlete...


Of course, there are many top athletes in the sport that have such advantages so the elite guys may balance out...

But how does it compare?

Does it balance out or is there an advantage for one of them.


Note: Not discounting skills since Skill is also a big factor in how far Manny got. Hatton moved up one division and struggled because his skills weren't up to par to enable him to be successful in the next division; he relied more on brute strength and bullying opponents. Manny however, technically, got better with time and that is something different.


And what about competition and skill of fighters in the division for time comparison.

I think Pacquiao is not only comparable to Henry but he may have surpassed him. While it is true what you said about the nutrition science being what we all know it is today, Pacquiao's opponents also benefit from that same advantages whereas Herny's opponents had a much wider range of physical preparations. Some were fit, some were not, some were smokers and some even had alcohol problems. A great comparison would be soccer, would Pele, regarded as the best ever, scored 1000 goals in today's soccer, which is played at sprint speeds and the pressure is IMMENSE? I don't think he would have scored 1000 goals in today's soccer. Same goes for Henry. So your narrative should really be applied to Henry Armstrong, not Pacquiao because if anything, Pacquiao has it harder, much harder than anyone in the past.