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Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread
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Originally posted by Simurgh View PostI don't know, honestly I didn't see it that way. Wlad never was a big talker - partly because English is his 3rd language.
Wlad's "you don't know what you're talking about" was spot on, because Wlad knows how is it to be 25 or 35, Fury doesn't. When Johnny said he can still do whatever he did when he was 25 it didn't look good for Fury.
All the comments Wlad made were measured. I do think he looked the most comfortable he ever looked near Tyson. Tyson, IMO, talked much more, but not really giving the impression he is the most confident out of two. He was hyping himself up, Wlad didn't have to.
I really expected Tyson to do much better. He definitely didn't get the edge of any sort in this one.
Then he said he would maybe come back if it was against David Haye.
Remind me how many times Wlad has been injured leading up to a fight after 34 as before 34? It's a lot. So of course the body takes a lot of wear and tear and you're not as naturally fit.
I don't think Wlad really gave any measured responses. Which ones are you referring to? It was pretty silent from him and a lot of "You'll be taught" "you'll see" or "you don't know what you're talking about".
I don't know. I had hoped for a little more from both.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostIf that's what he meant, then he should have explained it. I don't think that was what he meant, and besides it isn't true regardless. Of course you can't do what you do when you're 40 as when you're 27. Johnny obviously didn't take sides, but he gave an interview when he retired at the age of 38 or something on Sky Sports saying he can't do what he did when he was younger. That's literally what he said.
Then he said he would maybe come back if it was against David Haye.
Remind me how many times Wlad has been injured leading up to a fight after 34 as before 34? It's a lot. So of course the body takes a lot of wear and tear and you're not as naturally fit.
I don't think Wlad really gave any measured responses. Which ones are you referring to? It was pretty silent from him and a lot of "You'll be taught" "you'll see" or "you don't know what you're talking about".
I don't know. I had hoped for a little more from both.
- when he complemented fury on his movement (regarding his size), counter punching, but made the point there are many things he can't do.
Generally Wlad didn't talk a lot, but he was very measured IMO. Look at his body language and Fury's. Wlad is for sure calmer one.
and of course physically you can't do the same when you are 40 than when you are 25, but to say body will fail Wlad is just talking about 'something that you don't know'. so another good point.
Comment about Haye KOing Fury got to Fury more than anything that Fury was telling to Wlad.Last edited by Simurgh; 11-14-2015, 03:37 AM.
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Originally posted by Simurgh View Post- 'tyson believes he can stop a train with his head' - very similar when Haye said that it doesn't matter if you believe you can beat Bolt in 100m, you won't.. so it was spot on when it comes to Fury
- when he complemented fury on his movement (regarding his size), counter punching, but made the point there are many things he can't do.
Generally Wlad didn't talk a lot, but he was very measured IMO. Look at his body language and Fury's. Wlad is for sure calmer one.
and of course physically you can't do the same when you are 40 than when you are 25, but to say body will fail Wlad is just talking about 'something that you don't know'. so another good point.
Comment about Haye KOing Fury got to Fury more than anything that Fury was telling to Wlad.
Yeah he made the point, but he didn't say what. Fury on the other hand gave Wlad a lot of examples of what he does and doesn't do well.
I honestly thought Fury was way more relaxed. Wlad looked tense whilst Fury was smiling and laughing ocassionally.
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Originally posted by LacedUp View PostReally? I thought it was really weird and Fury's response was exactly as it should be: "I don't think I can stop a moving train. But I think I can stop you".
Yeah he made the point, but he didn't say what. Fury on the other hand gave Wlad a lot of examples of what he does and doesn't do well.
I honestly thought Fury was way more relaxed. Wlad looked tense whilst Fury was smiling and laughing ocassionally.
I can't agree. Wlad gave me an impression as his HR is around 40.. while Fury was a bit jittery shaking his leg half the interview. Well it is subjective.. but it is honestly how I saw it.
That laugh when Wlad said David would KO him was forced and a bit awkward and the comment obviously pissed him of, IMO.
One more thing - Wlad never really go too deep in discussing the abilities of his opponents. And I like that. IMO that's the champ's mentality. When you are the champ it is about you. Let the other analyse you and figure out what they need to do win the fight. Of course Wlad studies Fury, but no need to talk about it.
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