UFC is a joke, Carano is going to get a title shot

[-Swizzy-]

Just shows how stupid you are. Any mma fan who understands the sport knows how wrong you are. How many times did the Pride FC owner go and commentate for the UFC? Because Dana White did during Pride.

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Yes, you are a troll. You said the UFC will be around a 100 years but you cant say that about boxing. That is the definition of trolling. the UFC came close to dying already thanks to the current owners. And it's only 20 years old.



Next time bring facts to the discussion or stop responding.

So yes STOP trolling.


That picture was to prove what the UFC is really about. It's about Inflating the owner's ego. It's not about the fighters or the brands. Anyone not a shill realizes this.

what is your IQ level? You are trying to prove your points with random information. Dana white going over to PRIDE FC with Chuck Liddell proves that PRIDE was bigger? lol. UFC was losing money yes, so they were trying to pull any gimmick(at that time) to bring themselves out of the hole. All that took guts and creativity and everything they did is the reason UFC is where its at right now. Yes PRIDE had better fighters at one point, but they were not more popular than the UFC especially in the US where it really matters because that's where 90% of the money is made from PPV.

Again. The highest PPV this year was Ronda Vs McMann. Again you have zero numbers to back up anything you spout. I've destroyed all your arguments.


02/01/2014 UFC 169 Barao vs Faber II 230,000
02/22/2014 UFC 170 Rousey vs McMann 340,000

http://mmapayout.com/blue-book/pay-per-view/

GSP,Silva gone. Ronda Rousey the largest PPV star. FACT.

First off, nobody knows the actual numbers. But even if Rousey-McMann was the biggest ppv, that doesn't go against my argument. Please use your brain before responding.

Reading your replies makes my head hurt. Just lie after lie. So according to you UFC has always been bigger???

Strange that All the largest MMA events in History happened in PRIDE while UFC was owned by Zuffa and operating as a mma promotion.


Shockwave 2002. Over 90,000 fans in attendance.

Pride Shockwave 				2002.08.28 		71,000
Pride Final Conflict 2003 				2003.11.09 		67,451
UFC 129 		St. Pierre vs. Shields 		2011.04.30 		55,724
Pride Shockwave 2005 				2005.12.31 		49,801
Pride Shockwave 2006 				2006.12.31 		48,709
Pride Shockwave 2004 				2004.12.31 		48,398
Pride Grand Prix 2000 Opening Round 				2000.01.30 		48,316
Pride 1 				1997.10.11 		47,860
Pride Final Conflict 2004 				2004.08.15 		47,629
Pride Total Elimination 2005 				2005.04.23 		45,423
Pride Critical Countdown 2004 				2004.06.20 		43,711
Pride Total Elimination 2004 				2004.04.25 		42,110
Pride Total Elimination 2003 				2003.08.10 		40,316
Pride Shockwave 2003 				2003.12.31 		39,716
Pride Grand Prix 2000 Finals 				2000.05.01 		38,429
Fields Dynamite!! 2009 				2009.12.31 		35,000
Pride 10 		Return of the Warriors 		2000.08.27 		35,000
Pride 15 		Raging Rumble 		2001.07.29 		27,323
Pride 12 		Cold Fury 		2000.12.09 		26,882
Pride 28 		High Octane 		2004.10.31 		24,028
UFC 124 		St. Pierre vs. Koscheck 2 		2010.12.11 		23,152
Pride 29 		Fists of Fire 		2005.02.20 		22,047

http://www.tapology.com/search/mma-e...tal-attendance


But please post your evidence that UFC has ALWAYS been bigger.

Gate attendance means very little. UFC only went to a stadium ONCE, and they sold it out with 55,000. They could do stadiums for every single one of their PPV's if they want but they don't care for that because the viewing quality for live attendance is garbage especially for ppl in the top row. Also live gate revenue is like 5% of how much they make from ppv so it doesn't really matter for them.

Next time you post, take your time and think if what you are saying actually connects with the point you are trying to make. Just trying to help you out.

[RAV3N]

Nothing wrong with women as a ppv main event. People want to see the 2 best fighters 'in their respective divisions' fight, even if they aren't the 2 best in the sport.

When you see 2 middleweight boxers go at it, you're not necessarily watching the 2 best boxers in the sport but you might be watching the 2 best in the division and that's why you watch. Its no different in female mma.

You are wrong, women and mens sport are completely different, women are physically inferior to men which means that women sports are of a lesser standard.

So if half of the UFC ppv were all women fights you would still buy them?

And GSP vs Silva was in the process of happening but Silva lost to Weidman and that derailed the whole thing.

Yeah, just like may v pac is still in the process to be made.

Dana didnt want to cash his cows out thats all.

the biggest name in UFC isn't Silva or GSP..... its the 'UFC'. UFC will be here for the next 100 years. Can't confidently say that for boxing.

This is the prroblem with the UFC, it mostly has casual fans who follow 1 or 2 favourite fighters and once they leave the sport they lose interest.

The UFC is pretty big here in aus, I remember a few years ago so many of my mates watched it but these days since all the big names have gone they dont even follow the sport any more.

Boxing is very different it seems to have more 'hardcore' fans who actually follow the sport, not just 1 or 2 fighters but there is plenty of casual fans too.

Boxing has been around for over 4000 years and you are trying to tell me it wont last another 100 years? Boxing is here to stay indefinitely.

Mma will eventually end up like boxing is today, alphabet belts, multiple governing bodies, promoters, etc. It will increase ducking but the top fighters will also make the majority of the money instead of dana white.

When mma fighters start to make real money then they will attract better athletes and a better standard of competition but the sport is still in its infancy.

[Los Zetas]

To the douche who said UFC will be here for 100 years but you can't say that for boxing.

What a donkey boy.

Boxing is a sport and will always be here at whatever level. Every saturday there is a show in the US, UK, Japan, Germany, Mexico etc...

It will never die in 100 years.

UFC is not a sport but a company. That company will only last if it makes money. I am not sure how much it still owes to the lenders AKA the Casino brothers, but if the sales go down, then boom!

If anything, the UFC will die or be taken over as recent history of the sport has proven to be a trend.

[( . Y . )]

what is your IQ level? You are trying to prove your points with random information. Dana white going over to PRIDE FC with Chuck Liddell proves that PRIDE was bigger? lol. UFC was losing money yes, so they were trying to pull any gimmick(at that time) to bring themselves out of the hole. All that took guts and creativity and everything they did is the reason UFC is where its at right now. Yes PRIDE had better fighters at one point, but they were not more popular than the UFC especially in the US where it really matters because that's where 90% of the money is made from PPV.

First off, nobody knows the actual numbers. But even if Rousey-McMann was the biggest ppv, that doesn't go against my argument. Please use your brain before responding.





Gate attendance means very little. UFC only went to a stadium ONCE, and they sold it out with 55,000. They could do stadiums for every single one of their PPV's if they want but they don't care for that because the viewing quality for live attendance is garbage especially for ppl in the top row. Also live gate revenue is like 5% of how much they make from ppv so it doesn't really matter for them.

Next time you post, take your time and think if what you are saying actually connects with the point you are trying to make. Just trying to help you out.

Just such horrible logic. UFC has always been bigger than pride? Just take your word for it? No numbers nothing to back it up. Glad you're now back tracking and throwing in "In the US." Because that is not what you originally said. Just shows you don't believe the dumb sh-t you were saying. Keep back tracking. Even you know I know you were straight up bullsh-ting about the UFC always being bigger. Despite the fact Zuffa was in huge financial trouble and tried to sell and get out.




In fact actual proof doesn't mean anything to you. Gate's dont matter, nothing matters according to you the UFC could sell out 90,000 seat stadiums but choses not to for the fans.

Just some of the dumbest sh-t Ive ever read. Jesus you're a bad troll. Not even funny with the sh-t you spew. Just horrible lies built upon horrible logic with zero facts.

[( . Y . )]

I knew you would just glance over and not even comment about the Fertitta video. So I will post again.






Do you understand the video? The UFC was dead and the final nail in the coffin was being put in by the CURRENT owners. Who then bought the company.

So your prediction about the 100 year UFC reign seems pretty f-cking dumb. Considering all the facts. Especially compared to boxing which is not controlled by one private company.

[( . Y . )]

To the douche who said UFC will be here for 100 years but you can't say that for boxing.

What a donkey boy.

Boxing is a sport and will always be here at whatever level. Every saturday there is a show in the US, UK, Japan, Germany, Mexico etc...

It will never die in 100 years.

UFC is not a sport but a company. That company will only last if it makes money. I am not sure how much it still owes to the lenders AKA the Casino brothers, but if the sales go down, then boom!

If anything, the UFC will die or be taken over as recent history of the sport has proven to be a trend.

He is trolling. I've owned him for pages with facts and numbers and video proof. But he keeps coming back with "what does all this mean" "this stuff is just random"

One of the worst trolls jobs I've seen in awhile. At least make something up to refute the facts.

[( . Y . )]

Here is some more facts and logic to completely blow away another one of your complete lies.

So the ufc could sell out a stadium for every ppv but choses not to for the fans? Then how come UFC 170 had horrible ticket sales?? Doesn't make sense if what you say is true about them selling stadiums if they wanted to for ppv's.

Zuffa lowers ticket prices for UFC 170: Rousey vs. McMann

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/1/7/...t-prices-lower

Demand appears low for UFC 170 tickets

http://mmapayout.com/2014/02/demand-...c-170-tickets/

Dana White shocked by lower than expected live gate for UFC 170 "Rousey vs. McMann"

http://www.mmatorch.com/artman2/publ...le_20434.shtml


Really doesnt sound like they could sell out stadiums if they wanted to. And this is for the biggest PPV seller of the year. 340k.

[-Swizzy-]

I knew you would just glance over and not even comment about the Fertitta video. So I will post again.



Do you understand the video? The UFC was dead and the final nail in the coffin was being put in by the CURRENT owners. Who then bought the company.

So your prediction about the 100 year UFC reign seems pretty f-cking dumb. Considering all the facts. Especially compared to boxing which is not controlled by one private company.

lol that video doesn't prove anything. UFC's expenses exceeded their gross income, so what.....

Doesn't prove that PRIDE was bigger. Nobody in the US knew anything about PRIDE. The US is where the money is at.

Just such horrible logic. UFC has always been bigger than pride? Just take your word for it? No numbers nothing to back it up. Glad you're now back tracking and throwing in "In the US." Because that is not what you originally said. Just shows you don't believe the dumb sh-t you were saying. Keep back tracking. Even you know I know you were straight up bullsh-ting about the UFC always being bigger. Despite the fact Zuffa was in huge financial trouble and tried to sell and get out.

In fact actual proof doesn't mean anything to you. Gate's dont matter, nothing matters according to you the UFC could sell out 90,000 seat stadiums but choses not to for the fans.

Just some of the dumbest sh-t Ive ever read. Jesus you're a bad troll. Not even funny with the sh-t you spew. Just horrible lies built upon horrible logic with zero facts.

I already know all that info son. I use to only watch PRIDE back in the day other than GSP fights in the UFC. I know everything there is to know about PRIDE.

Live attendance is a moot point because UFC refuses to do fights in stadiums because of low quality viewing experience. After they sold out Rogers center in Toronto, they went back to Toronto twice and did their fights at Air Canada center when they could have easily sold out the stadium again.

UFC makes on avg $50 mill off ppv per fight and only about 1.5mill from the gate. UFC doesn't want to give the live audience a bad viewing experience just to make an extra mill. Same reason why Mayweather does all his fights in a small venue in Vegas when he can easily sellout a stadium. Live gate means very little.

[Los Zetas]

lol that video doesn't prove anything. UFC's expenses exceeded their gross income, so what.....

Doesn't prove that PRIDE was bigger. Nobody in the US knew anything about PRIDE. The US is where the money is at.



I already know all that info son. I use to only watch PRIDE back in the day other than GSP fights in the UFC. I know everything there is to know about PRIDE.

Live attendance is a moot point because UFC refuses to do fights in stadiums because of low quality viewing experience. After they sold out Rogers center in Toronto, they went back to Toronto twice and did their fights at Air Canada center when they could have easily sold out the stadium again.

UFC makes on avg $50 mill off ppv per fight and only about 1.5mill from the gate. UFC doesn't want to give the live audience a bad viewing experience just to make an extra mill. Same reason why Mayweather does all his fights in a small venue in Vegas when he can easily sellout a stadium. Live gate means very little.

50 Mill average from the PPV only? LOL

[Anthony342]

Well they flirted with the idea as an undercard on ppv but they were not the mainevent.

They only brought women's boxing to the olympics to make it fair :P

To make it fair and so that American boxers could start winning medals again as most of the American male boxers don't. When was the last one we had, Andre Ward in 2004?