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  • Originally posted by TensionKiller View Post
    If anyone knows about dog fighting, it's all about stamina that helps them win. A Wolf had superior stamina.


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    Dont mean to bust your balls again TK (nothing personal btw) but how does stamina help you if you face a heavy mouthed dog that kills you in 1 bite? Stamina doesnt come into play then.
    Like boxing, its the overall package.

    1 is a fighting machine bred for hundred + years to hate their own and want nothing more then to fight. The other is bred to be socially acceptable and to survive and thrive in groups.

    Its a crazy debate IMO, but i know they always come up

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    • I have never seen a dog such as a Pitt die in one bite or a Wolf.


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      • i clicked this thread thinking there was a video of a wolf and pitbull fighting

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        • Originally posted by chav View Post
          No ****, Wlad knocks Floyd out too. It's kinda obvious.

          You wont find a pitbull that is 140lb, well you might find a bully thats 140lb, but it's not a pitbull. Comparing a 140lb wolf to a 40lb dog is just madness.
          Which is why this thread was ludicrous. A wolf is a wolf. People were actually arguing that a pitbull could beat a wolf.

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          • Originally posted by chav View Post
            Dont mean to bust your balls again TK (nothing personal btw) but how does stamina help you if you face a heavy mouthed dog that kills you in 1 bite? Stamina doesnt come into play then.
            Like boxing, its the overall package.

            1 is a fighting machine bred for hundred + years to hate their own and want nothing more then to fight. The other is bred to be socially acceptable and to survive and thrive in groups.

            Its a crazy debate IMO, but i know they always come up

            dogs don't fight like humans. most non - humans don't.

            they try to minimize risk. you don't have a hospital to get your wounds stiched up. a deep one will eventually get infected, and you'll die. like you said, one big bite.

            you can win the fight, but if you take a bit like that it's eventually all over.


            if a group of dogs is "fighting" a bear they will exhaust it to death. boars too.

            a smaller dog would try the same tactic with a larger dog. the "fight" could take all day, with much of the time spent at near death levels of exhaustion, but at a distance.

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            • Originally posted by New England View Post
              dogs don't fight like humans. most non - humans don't.

              they try to minimize risk. you don't have a hospital to get your wounds stiched up. a deep one will eventually get infected, and you'll die. like you said, one big bite.

              you can win the fight, but if you take a bit like that it's eventually all over.


              if a group of dogs is "fighting" a bear they will exhaust it to death. boars too.

              a smaller dog would try the same tactic with a larger dog. the "fight" could take all day, with much of the time spent at near death levels of exhaustion, but at a distance.
              A good tactic, however id be willing to bet that if the two got together to fight, they would challenge eachother straight up going for the throat. Minimal dancing around, especially if in an enclosed space.

              But in anycase, lets not act like a wolf is not athletic, agile, etc. Thats what it has to do to survive in the wild, catch stuff that doesnt want to be caught. The pit would have a better chance fighting back/going for the throat imo, as trying to stay away and wear out the wolf would just get the pit caught in a defensless position (giving up the back of neck, etc)
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              • Originally posted by akScoundrel View Post
                Which is why this thread was ludicrous. A wolf is a wolf. People were actually arguing that a pitbull could beat a wolf.


                what's so hugely different? i don't think it's that hard to conceive.


                get a wolf from the tundra into a hot atlanta pit and see how he does. there's a reason why pit bulls are used in those god awful fights. if you wan't a premium fighting dong you don't just breed wolves, or pick wolf like breeds. the pit bulls are more suited for it, im guessing because of how long these fights take, and where they happen.


                pit bulls were bred for fighting over hundreds of years. anybody who has spent enough time around them know that they've got incredible potential for violence. that's what they were built for specifically; sustaining and dealing damage against other dogs. before that it was fighting with bulls.

                wolves weren't bred for that. fights among wolves to the death are probably pretty damn rare. usually a pecking order is established. without any need to kill. wolves probably fight among themselves all the time, but it would look similar to the way a pack of dogs fights among itself, and that's not to the death. i don't know what a "dog fight" looks like, but it's not that.
                it's probably some sort of ritualized fight, where the dogs are held and riled up.
                most of the wolves in a wolf pack have never killed another wolf or fought one in that capacity.
                Last edited by New England; 01-23-2013, 06:34 PM.

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                • Originally posted by akScoundrel View Post
                  A good tactic, however id be willing to bet that if the two got together to fight, they would challenge eachother straight up going for the throat. Minimal dancing around, especially if in an enclosed space.

                  But in anycase, lets not act like a wolf is not athletic, agile, etc. Thats what it has to do to survive in the wild, catch stuff that doesnt want to be caught.


                  no way. not in the wild. animals don't just take risks like that.

                  they'd probably size each other up from a distance for hours. maybe even days.

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                  • Originally posted by New England View Post
                    what's so hugely different? i don't think it's that hard to conceive.


                    get a wolf from the tundra into a hot atlanta pit and see how he does. there's a reason why pit bulls are used in those god awful fights. if you wan't a premium fighting dong you don't just breed wolves, or pick wolf like breeds. the pit bulls are more suited for it, im guessing because of how long they take.


                    pit bulls were bred for fighting over hundreds of years. anybody who has spent enough time around them know that they've got incredible potential for violence. that's what they were built for specifically; sustaining and dealing damage against other dogs.

                    wolves weren't bred for that. fights among wolves to the death are probably pretty damn rare. usually a pecking order is established. without any need to kill. wolves probably fight among themselves all the time, but it would look similar to the way a pack of dogs fights among itself, and that's not to the death.
                    Wolves werent bred period. While pitbulls are bred to fight, wolves are just natural born killers. They have to kill to survive, and they are damn good at it.

                    As far as why wolves arent in hotlanta, its extrmely hard to get a hold of a pure wild wolf. Extremely hard, and extremely dangerous. Even if the wolf is 'domesticated' or only half wolf, the element of the wild is still present in the wolf, still very dangerous. Its just not practical for hoodlums to get a wolf.

                    Whats so different is exactly what the wolf is. An untamed vicious killing machine. Twice as big as a pit, a bite force considerably harder, natural protectants like a thick mane covering the neck, etc.

                    As far as wolves fighting in the wild, its relative to size/strength/and just making a point within their pack. They are trying to survive, not kill eachother. They are merely trying to assert their dominance, and place the other member back in his place. As far as being relative, they are both big dogs able to take eachothers blows. Its like sergio martinez fighting other middleweights, as opposed to sergio fighting....donaire.

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                    • Originally posted by chav View Post
                      No ****, Wlad knocks Floyd out too. It's kinda obvious.

                      You wont find a pitbull that is 140lb, well you might find a bully thats 140lb, but it's not a pitbull. Comparing a 140lb wolf to a 40lb dog is just madness.
                      Wrong comparison. A better comparison would be a sword vs a knife. Both the pitbull and the wolf are deadly.

                      Yes the wolf has every advantage over the pitbull and will probably win 2 times out of 3 but to say that no pitbull could ever beat any wolf is inaccurate.

                      I've seen videos of pitbulls getting shot and battered multiple times and still keep coming. Also, it has a bigger mouth than the wolf and more psi force behind its bite. Pitbulls were bred for biting.

                      It's not the size of the dog in a fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog.

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