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Victor Ortiz Jaw Being operated on today. Broken w Fractures
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Originally posted by DLT View Postno, the corner wanted him to continue. He pushed them out the way and told the ref he didnt want to fight. It was weird. He was in a panic and didnt wanna hear his corner out at all
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I'm not sure why Victor's submission is becoming such a debated topic here.
Factually, Ortiz had his jaw broken and rather quickly realized it wasn't worth the pain to continue.
Physically, could he? Yes.
Mentally, could he? Obviously not.
Mayweather has always stressed a safety first mentality. Some boxers have skills, like Ortiz, but don't have "heart".
It all comes down to how important toughness and determination are to your favoritism towards a fighter.
Floyd Mayweather has ten times the skill of say, Arturo Gatti, but we all know how beloved Gatti was for his heart.
Could Victor have kept fighting? Absolutely.
Did he owe it to anyone to push himself if he didn't feel the drive to finish? No.
It is what it is.
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Originally posted by DLT View Postso because he's getting surgery means what? Everyone already agreed that it was broke. Everyone in this thread calling others out? You think everyone didnt think it was broke or something? Everyone already knew that.
nationalism just breeds stupidity & ignorance.
its as if nsb posters have to be judged by the same standards as a professional boxer.
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I hope they wire his mouth shut permanently so he could learn to fight without his mouth wide open in an exchange
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it's easy to look at the next man and say what you would do if you were in that situation. Its easy to come to the net and say "Id have kept fighting with a broken jaw" even though you've never been in that situation. One day, you'll realize that.
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Originally posted by Njord777 View PostI'm not sure why Victor's submission is becoming such a debated topic here.
Factually, Ortiz had his jaw broken and rather quickly realized it wasn't worth the pain to continue.
Physically, could he? Yes.
Mentally, could he? Obviously not.
Mayweather has always stressed a safety first mentality. Some boxers have skills, like Ortiz, but don't have "heart".
It all comes down to how important toughness and determination are to your favoritism towards a fighter.
Floyd Mayweather has ten times the skill of say, Arturo Gatti, but we all know how beloved Gatti was for his heart.
Could Victor have kept fighting? Absolutely.
Did he owe it to anyone to push himself if he didn't feel the drive to finish? No.
It is what it is.
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