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Originally posted by Obayifo View PostSee but that's where you're wrong.
Wlad's defense = complete garbage when he's not allowed to clinch
Ward and Floyd are natural defensive wizards, even without clinching.
Ward and Floyd also pose inside game, Wlad's inside game is composed of thin air, because it doesn't exist.
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Originally posted by Cutthroat View PostThat isn't great defense, it's pretty basic stuff that most mobile tall fighters do, his footwork is good though. Holding prevents inside fighting, uppercuts, bodywork, sneaky hooks on the inside, short powerful punches, and Wlad's opponents aren't allowed to fight there smh.
His defense looks even better from holding and leaning him body on his opponent all night, carrying 240lbs over 12 rounds is tiring. Nobody else in boxing benefits from holding like him bc of his sheer height and strength, as well as how blatantly he gets away with it.
Just because you can do some things good on defense, doesn't make you a great defensive fighter. Wlad's defense is horrible without holding.
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Originally posted by Obayifo View PostSee but that's where you're wrong.
Wlad's defense = complete garbage when he's not allowed to clinch
Ward and Floyd are natural defensive wizards, even without clinching.
Ward and Floyd also pose inside game, Wlad's inside game is composed of thin air, because it doesn't exist.
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Originally posted by chaos View Post^^^THIS^^^
All the crybabies here defend clinching when it's bhop, floyd or ward. I wonder what the difference is.......
It's just American snobbery. And I'm a huge B-Hop fan.
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I don't like Wlad at all but at this point in time he's clearly past his prime, I don't believe for a second that it was Jennings that stopped him from using the straight right hand. It's like he couldn't pull the trigger anymore.
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Originally posted by Cupo303 View PostBecause their holding is more ARTISTIC. See it's Sweet science when a Western fighter does it. Primarily an African-American. But when a European fighter does it, he is a bum with no skills.
It's just American snobbery. And I'm a huge B-Hop fan.Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 04-26-2015, 02:22 AM.
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Originally posted by daggum View Postwlad was a very mediocre fighter before he developed his cheating tactics. he will never be great because he should be dq'd in most of his fights. 187 clinches vs povetkin, 96 vs jennings, 44 in 4 rounds vs pulev. it's crap. everytime his opponent gets in position to throw a punch he just grabs them and leans on them so much that he walks across the ring with his body weight on them. having a 245 man putting all his weight on you probably would tire you out wouldn't it? he will never be great for the simple fact that he had to cheat to be "great" when he tried to play by the rules he hit the canvas a dozen times.
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