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  • #11
    Originally posted by elgu View Post
    Quien te dijo que era republicano? Yo le iba a Bernie pero eso no significa que no deben regular a quien entra a la nacion americana y que hillary es una criminal corrupta.

    El que se hable espanol en algunas areas es malo. No es la lengua oficial. Como esperas que el americano te respete si ni siquiera tienes la decencia de hablar su idioma?

    Los americanos se dan cuentan que soy de Puerto Rico pq soy trigueno y parezco de Puerto Rico.

    Fox news no vale nada en eso estamos de acuerdo. Tambien hay que mejorar el sistema de educacion y la plataforma de Bernie me convencia mas pq era mejor pensada y no le convenia a los elite. Hillary en su plataforma no convence.

    To our non-spanish audience this is what i answered.

    The guy accuses me of being republican- i said i believed in bernie but that doesn't mean that immigration laws shouldn't be upheld and that i dont believe in the corrupt criminal called hillary.

    The poster then comments that "what is the problem of sectors of the nation only speaking spanish?"- I said how do you expect americans to respect us if we dont even bother speaking the official language.

    I agree with the guy that fox news is worth nothing and education must be a priority and that i liked bernie's platform, and that hillary is more of the same.
    I didn't accuse you of being republican; I asked if you thought republicans cared about Puerto Ricans. Let's continue:

    Como antes había mencionado, los inmigrantes ya pasan por un proceso de investigación. Cualquier búsqueda en Google te puede aclarar esa duda. El odio que está creciendo en los Estados Unidos hacia las minorías está relacionado precisamente con la razón por la cual piensas que son los culpables: recibes información incorrecta. Si te gustaba Bernie, pues no me hace sentido como no sabes que son mentiras de la élite. Ellos son los que han causado los problemas, y después vienen con los cuentos de que todos los problemas son debido a los inmigrantes. Igual como discriminan en contra de ellos, discriminarían en contra de usted, si se les diese la oportunidad en el futuro.

    En cuanto a lo del idioma, los Estados Unidos es lo que se conoce como un "melting pot." No hay nada malo con que hayan comunidades en donde se hablé español. Inclusive, es tremendo que sea así, porque hay millones de estadounidenses en Puerto Rico de los cuales su idioma principal es español. ¿Y qué significa eso? Significa que no todos los estadounidenses nacen conociendo inglés. Por ende, no puedes justificar discriminación por idiomas. Además, te notificó que los Estados Unidos no tiene idioma oficial, y que hasta el estado de Hawaii es bilingüe. Otros estados, Louisiana, Maine, y New Mexico, tienen políticas bilingües aceptadas. Y, como ya conoces, Florida es bilingüe en todo menos oficialmente. Igual como no puedes violentarle los derechos a los hawaianos, tampoco se puede contra los demás. Y se debe destacar que muchos migrantes e inmigrantes sí quieren aprender inglés, pero recuerda que vienen de lugares, incluyendo Puerto Rico, donde ese privilegio no se encontraba. Empáticamente, eso se debe de entender.

    Si hablas de respeto, hay que respetar la diversidad dentro de los Estados Unidos, la cual siempre ha sido un pilar dentro de su unión. Si los otros me llegasen a entender, ya este debate estaría por terminado. Pero, si quieres estirarlo, tienes derecho a eso.
    Last edited by SunSpace; 07-09-2016, 10:21 PM.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
      Dammit

      Maybe I can play off I'm white.

      Say I'm Portuguese or Greek or something.

      Still a Celtic fan I see......

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      • #13
        The South will try to rise but they'll just get spanked again similar to the last time they tried to get froggy.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by SunSpace View Post
          I didn't accuse you of being republican; I asked if you thought republicans cared about Puerto Ricans. Let's continue:

          Como antes había mencionado, los inmigrantes ya pasan por un proceso de investigación. Cualquier búsqueda en Google te puede aclarar esa duda. El odio que está creciendo en los Estados Unidos hacia las minorías está relacionado precisamente con la razón por la cual piensas que son los culpables: recibes información incorrecta. Si te gustaba Bernie, pues no me hace sentido como no sabes que son mentiras de la élite. Ellos son los que han causado los problemas, y después vienen con los cuentos de que todos los problemas son debido a los inmigrantes. Igual como discriminan en contra de ellos, discriminarían en contra de usted, si se les diese la oportunidad en el futuro.

          En cuanto a lo del idioma, los Estados Unidos es lo que se conoce como un "melting pot." No hay nada malo con que hayan comunidades en donde se hablé español. Inclusive, es tremendo que sea así, porque hay millones de estadounidenses en Puerto Rico de los cuales su idioma principal es español. ¿Y qué significa eso? Significa que no todos los estadounidenses nacen conociendo inglés. Por ende, no puedes justificar discriminación por idiomas. Además, te notificó que los Estados Unidos no tiene idioma oficial, y que hasta el estado de Hawaii es bilingüe. Otros estados, Louisiana, Maine, y New Mexico, tienen políticas bilingües aceptadas. Y, como ya conoces, Florida es bilingüe en todo menos oficialmente. Igual como no puedes violentarle los derechos a los hawaianos, tampoco se puede contra los demás. Y se debe destacar que muchos migrantes e inmigrantes sí quieren aprender inglés, pero recuerda que vienen de lugares, incluyendo Puerto Rico, donde ese privilegio no se encontraba. Empáticamente, eso se debe de entender.

          Si hablas de respeto, hay que respetar la diversidad dentro de los Estados Unidos, la cual siempre ha sido un pilar dentro de su unión. Si los otros me llegasen a entender, ya este debate estaría por terminado. Pero, si quieres estirarlo, tienes derecho a eso.
          This is an ENGLISH forum. Either discuss so everyone can understand you or get out.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Enayze View Post
            These are your typical Bernie supporters. The scumbag is holding a communist flag in his hand talking about no borders on stolen native land, and calling everyone who disagrees with him a racist. These people will be the end of America if they one day take control of this great nation.
            I'm a Bernie supporter on many issues, but not on immigration. I like his ideas on education and health care but everything else should be left to capitalism. There's no excuse for the countless amounts of immigrants that contribute nothing and get all the benefits.

            USA doesn't survive two terms under Hillary with out some sort of violent movement.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by elgu View Post
              I'm a Bernie supporter on many issues, but not on immigration. I like his ideas on education and health care but everything else should be left to capitalism. There's no excuse for the countless amounts of immigrants that contribute nothing and get all the benefits.

              USA doesn't survive two terms under Hillary with out some sort of violent movement.
              Healthcare, one payer system would solve a lot of problems. Immigrants are absolutely fine, as long as they are legal. You are Puerto Rican, thats basically American.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by cupocity303 View Post
                Here, grab some popcorn and enjoy. You can thank me later:

                lol I used to live just down the street, first time I ever got shot at was at the gas station on the corner lol.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by cupocity303 View Post
                  Here, grab some popcorn and enjoy. You can thank me later:

                  this is an epic schooling right here. bernie hipsters have no arguments against **** ISLAM! guy, they should've stuck to doing monologues about which IPA beer is the best, fockin' ******s lol.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by elgu View Post
                    This is an ENGLISH forum. Either discuss so everyone can understand you or get out.
                    You're not kicking me out from anywhere. You want it in English? No problem.

                    Translation:

                    As I stated previously, immigrants already go through background checks. A basic Google search would clarify that for you. The hatred toward minorities spreading throughout the United States correlates with what's causing your own blaming of them: misinformation. If you liked Bernie, then it doesn't make any sense that you don't know by now how many lies the elite tell our population. They are the source of the problems, and then they go around blaming it all on immigrants. Just as how they discriminate against them, they would discriminate against you, were they provided the opportunity.

                    As to the language issue, the United States is what's known as a "melting pot." There's nothing wrong with spanish-speaking communities. Actually, that's awesome, because there are millions of Americans in Puerto Rico who speak Spanish as their primary language. Do you know what that means? It means that not all Americans are born and raised speaking English. Hence, you cannot justify language discrimination. Moreover, the United States does not have an official language, and even Hawaii is officially a bilingual state. Other states, such as Louisiana, Maine, and New Mexico, also have bilingual policies in place. And, as you already know, Florida is a bilingual state in everything but official law. Just as you cannot violate the rights of Hawaiians to freely speak a language, you cannot do this to others. It's also worth pointing out that many migrants and immigrants do wish to learn English, but you must remember that they come from places where that privilege isn't available, including Puerto Rico. With a little empathy, this should be something easy to understand.

                    If you're talking about respect, diversity within the United States must be respected, for it has always been a pillar to its union. Were the others to understand me, this debate would be over. But, if you wish to keep going, you have a right to do so.

                    (I mentioned that last part to basically let TS know that I was showing mercy to him, from the beginning, by solely using Spanish, so as to convince him without causing embarrassment, debate-wise. Unfortunately, he must have misunderstood that as my admitting some sort of "weak point" with regard to communication in English. -_- Experiencing a check-mate, TS apparently chose to attempt to get rid of me by "exploiting" that imagined flaw, in claiming that I must leave because I had used Spanish, and thereby TS "ignored" all the points made. The contradiction within his current action is that he didn't ignore my original response, which exposes his thought process in a way that he can't take back now; in other words, if he were so strict as to the language spoken in his thread, don't you think he would've ignored me from the beginning, instead of initially responding? Why is it all of a sudden an "English only" debate? Unfortunately, it was a bad move on his part, because he just made everything easier for me, on top of exposing questionable tactics.)

                    Last edited by SunSpace; 07-10-2016, 02:09 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Enayze View Post
                      These are your typical Bernie supporters. The scumbag is holding a communist flag in his hand talking about no borders on stolen native land, and calling everyone who disagrees with him a racist. These people will be the end of America if they one day take control of this great nation.
                      I hope Muslims see this man's face and put two or three bullets in his head.

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