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  • #11
    Originally posted by GOAT86 View Post
    No one performs that workrate and speed for twelve rounds without being juiced. FACT!


    so pac has been juicing since he wasa featherweight? LOL


    pac is a beast! one of the all time greats... you just have to accept it.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by GOAT86 View Post
      No one performs that workrate and speed for twelve rounds without being juiced. FACT!
      Yeah, he must have been on roids since he turned pro then, cause as far as workrate and speed are concerned there's no major change except he slowed down slightly and became a little smarter.



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      • #13
        Henry Armstrong had insane stamina and workrate. He had an enlarged heart and slower than usual heart-rate.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by PapaMo View Post
          counter punching, movement, combinations and angles, great footowrk.




          This man will be the destruction of Mayweather. Floyd should feel lucky he isn't fighting him. Quote me on that.



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          • #15
            Originally posted by GOAT86 View Post
            No one performs that workrate and speed for twelve rounds without being juiced. FACT!
            Juan Diaz
            Kassim Ouma
            Joe Calzaghe
            Jeff Fenech
            Paul Williams
            Juan Manuel Lopez
            Antonio Margarito
            etc

            All roiding scum eh? Jump off a cliff, buffoon.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Clyde Barrow View Post
              Juan Diaz
              Kassim Ouma
              Joe Calzaghe
              Jeff Fenech
              Paul Williams
              Juan Manuel Lopez
              Antonio Margarito
              etc

              All roiding scum eh? Jump off a cliff, buffoon.
              Taking Juanma Lopez out of the list because he definetly looked gas vs Mtagwa, and the other fighter before.
              but most of them are not power punchers

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              • #17
                Yea not fair to assume the PED thing, but Pac is an idiot for not taking the testing.

                It could have been the biggest fight of all time with both guys taking extra tests and setting a precedent in the sport.

                Instead Pac decided to be stupid. I don't think Pac's on PED's, but he picked the wrong battle. He has brutally lost this PR battle.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by oc9979 View Post
                  Taking Juanma Lopez out of the list because he definetly looked gas vs Mtagwa, and the other fighter before.
                  but most of them are not power punchers
                  Mtagwa was a war where Lopez took a lot of punishment in return. He had a right to be tired. And none of them are power punchers, including Pac. If Pac was a power puncher Cotto wouldn't have lasted until 12 mate. Due to Pac's recent KO streak his power is being highly overrated. The only guy he iced was Hatton.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
                    pac would probably beat any cotto style oponent in history, if he fought prime chavez hed knock him out.

                    the question is can he do it against guys who dont come at him in straight lines, stand right in front of him, are flat footed and rely on power rather than speed.

                    styles make fights, pac hasnt achieved things due to PEDs, hes done it due to careful matchmaking. the blood test is just an excuse to get out of the mayweather fight, keeping up with the long trend of ducking guys with top skills, speed, and boxing IQ.

                    and lets also remember in addition to being tailor made for pac cotto was washed up aswell.

                    No, it was may who wanted to blood tests, its his fault that they dont fight. And Cotto was not washed up, he fought pretty well against Pac, was in great shape and was faster than before but it wasnt enough.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by savorduhflavor View Post
                      Yea not fair to assume the PED thing, but Pac is an idiot for not taking the testing.

                      It could have been the biggest fight of all time with both guys taking extra tests and setting a precedent in the sport.

                      Instead Pac decided to be stupid. I don't think Pac's on PED's, but he picked the wrong battle. He has brutally lost this PR battle.
                      pac will win the rematch in the courtroom and the rubber match in the ring.

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